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To: churchillbuff
Conservatism used to be about putting limits on government's power. The conservatives who put out this press release still get it. A lot of freepers don't.

Yeah really, these "true conservatives" such as bob barr joining with al agore and moveon.org and singing Kumbya over the evil Bush is the ticket(eyes rolling).

39 posted on 01/18/2006 8:50:12 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

Just reading that sentence makes my head almost explode.


41 posted on 01/18/2006 8:51:58 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Dane
Yeah really, these "true conservatives" such as bob barr joining with al agore and moveon.org and singing Kumbya over the evil Bush is the ticket(eyes rolling)."""

You're indulging in what logic professors call "ad hominem" argument. Instead of addressing the issue - the danger of putting unchecked power in the hands of any one branch of government - you're diverting the debate by focusing on the individuals the "hominem". Won't work. If Barr were complaining about Hillary snooping without judicial permission, I bet you wouldn't "roll your eyes" and say it's "Barr joingin with algore." But we're giving Hillary that power if we say that the current administration should have that power. I'm a conservative because I believe in constitutional restraints, no matter which party is in power. The other philosophy is just a form of Marxism - "no restraints on government as long as my guys are in power."

45 posted on 01/18/2006 8:54:12 AM PST by churchillbuff
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