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To: Red6
"Once Airbus builds an equivalent for a 737, the state run airlines buy it (A300)."

What is your definition of a state run airline?

According to Wikipedia:
"In December 2004 the French state sold 18.4% of its equity stake in the Air France-KLM Group, reducing its stake to just under 20%."
"...since 1997 Lufhansa is completely private owned."

The fleet of Air France:
* 11 Airbus A318-100
* 44 Airbus A319-100
* 12 Airbus A320-100
* 55 Airbus A320-200
* 5 Airbus A321-100
* 8 Airbus A321-200
* 16 Airbus A330-200
* 20 Airbus A340-300
* 13 Boeing 737-500
* 6 Boeing 747-200
* 2 Boeing 747-300
* 16 Boeing 747-400
* 9 Boeing 747-200F
* 4 Boeing 747-400ERF
* 25 Boeing 777-200
* 11 Boeing 777-300

Orders of Air France:
* 4 Boeing 777-300ER
* 18 Boeing 777-200ERs
* 10 Airbus A380
* 3 conversions Boeing 747-400 to Boeing 747-400SF
* 5 Boeing 777-200F

The fleet of Lufthansa:
* 18 Avro RJ85
* 20 CRJ-700
* 40 CRJ-100/200
* 15 Airbus A319-100
* 36 Airbus A320-200
* 26 Airbus A321-100/200
* 2 Airbus A330-200 (to leave fleet by October 2006)
* 12 Airbus A330-300
* 13 Airbus A300-600
* 29 Airbus A340-300
* 10 Airbus A340-600
* 19 MD-11F (Lufthansa Cargo only)
* 33 Boeing 737-300
* 29 Boeing 737-500
* 29 Boeing 747-400 (+1 B747 stored)
* 1 Junkers Ju 52
* 1 Messerschmitt Me 108
* 1 Dornier Do 27

Orders of Lufthansa:
* 15 Airbus A380-800
* 7 Airbus A340-600


Which airline bought 2005 a Boeing 747 for passenger transportation?
18 posted on 01/18/2006 9:32:08 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: MHalblaub

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm?content=displaystandardreport.cfm&RequestTimeout=20000&optReportType=CurYrDelv&pageid=m15520

In 2005- 13 Boeing 747's were delivered. What statement were you trying to make? lol

BTW- more will be delivered in 2006 and yes there are newer versions out offered for sale that are more efficient, more modern and better tailored for new markets. Again, what were you trying to say? I'm confused. lol

Red6


20 posted on 01/18/2006 9:59:43 AM PST by Red6
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To: MHalblaub

Once Airbus builds a product that fills a "Certain Market Niche" the state run Airlines within Europe will buy it. The A380 is a good example. A stillbirth because it does not fit into the trend (Hub and Spoke is not the trend and that’s what the A380 was designed for) this plane is built and BOUGHT by who?

Lufthansa, British, Air France… and what other airlines have ordered this plane? Please tell us who the FEW are outside of the COINCIDENTAL Airbus consortium member states that have bought this massive jetliner? Ahhhhh yes, all just a big coincidence again!

Once Airbus offers a long range jet equivalent to a 747SP what do they buy? Ahhhh yes the A340……..

BTW- guess who owns the FRAPORT and will gladly pay for Terminal modifications, hangars etc? Ahhhhh-yes the FRAPORT who is owned by who?

Within Europe you have private Airlines and Boeing sells even TODAY IN THOSE MARKET NICHES (i.e. Ryan Air and the 737). Some privates buy Airbus and that's just how competition is. Even in the US Airbus sells well and had users such as United. But the State run airlines within Europe favor a certain manufacturer. There is a TREND. To state otherwise can only be supported with polemics, taking statistics out of context of time and markets or airframes that the manufacturers offer. The state run airlines within Europe buy what the state built aircraft builder builds.

Airbus was birthed by the state, it is managed by the state, it is given preferential treatment by the state when it comes to purchases.

Red6


21 posted on 01/18/2006 10:27:13 AM PST by Red6
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