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To: Fraxinus
You are comparing numbers for after the tribes you mention lost in excess of 50% of their population due to epidemic diseases.

No, I'm not. In 1615, these tribes hadn't been struck by the dread diseases yet. That would happen in the 1630s.

I also have severe doubts that the agriculture practices of the early American Republic were an order of magnitude more productive than that practiced by the Cahokians.

Ever read any of Jefferson's writings on the subject? Fairly sophisticated if you ask me.
59 posted on 03/17/2006 5:59:52 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Antoninus
No, I'm not. In 1615, these tribes hadn't been struck by the dread diseases yet. That would happen in the 1630s.

You did not give the dates of the population estimates in your initial post, thus I assumed they were from a later period. Also, the first epidemics entered the continent from the Gulf Coast in the mid 1500's, I do not find it unbelievable that the epidemics killed a large percentage in the St. Laurence valley before 1600. The initial Pilgrim colony at Plymouth was established on the ruins of a village that had been decimated by chicken pox (?) and abandoned.

Fairly sophisticated if you ask me.

The only major change was that there was more extensive exploitation of marginal crop land (marginal for corn-squash-beans) by grazing meat animals upon the land. If you want to convince me that Jefferson's agriculture was massively more productive than Cahokian, show that the addition of draft animals increases farm production (excess for sale off of the farm) by at least ten fold.

61 posted on 03/17/2006 6:22:58 AM PST by Fraxinus (Warning: Opinion may be less useful than it appears)
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