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Childlessness A Sin, Southern Baptist Leader Says
KWTX ^ | 1-17-06

Posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:49 PM PST by WKB

Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says it's "an absolute revolt against God's design" if husbands and wives purposely avoid bearing children.

On his Web site and other articles and interviews, Mohler argues that "marriage, sex and children are part of one package" and that "to deny any part of this wholeness is to reject God's intention in creation and his mandate revealed in the Bible."

In a CNN interview, the Baptist leader added, “We grow up by having children. Without that responsibility, we have a generation of perpetual adolescents just growing old."


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To: mariabush

Because I'm interested in anyone (religious, governmental) who tries to make public policy about people's personal lives.


521 posted on 01/18/2006 5:02:09 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Theophilus

"if it is an abort-efficient"

Thank you for a hearty laugh this morning! What a great attempt at "abortifacient". :)


522 posted on 01/18/2006 5:05:04 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: CWOJackson

"Pilot"? Do you mean Pontius Pilate? Which airline did he fly for?


523 posted on 01/18/2006 5:09:02 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: BibChr

http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2005-06-07


524 posted on 01/18/2006 5:13:34 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: iPod Shuffle

10K is not enough for me to have anymore. I am old anyway. I have a two year old and I want to kill myself. I should be medicated and drunk everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my other girl is almost 11.


525 posted on 01/18/2006 5:17:34 AM PST by angcat
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To: WKB
Only if it's R U 4 86.......and smiler drugs.
526 posted on 01/18/2006 5:23:47 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: AnalogReigns

Is it "liberal" to say that the individual should make individual choices? I never thought so before.


527 posted on 01/18/2006 5:37:23 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: pamlet
I think the point he was making was that what he sees as a delaying of marriage for worldly gain - or material things. Just as with the original post - we're just getting a portion of something he said - rather than the whole of his words...

I come from the most (well ALMOST most) fundamental of independent Baptist backgrounds. The one thing we learned was that not ALL are called to be married.

All I can think of that he's saying is that he feels that many are called to be married - but would rather stay single for selfish reasons.

I'm Southern Baptist and this isn't the first time he's made these remarks. I participate on Crosswalk forum where Mohler's blog is and it was discussed thoroughly when he said that deliberate singlelness was sin.

There are many reasons that are not listed as to why people don't get married at 17-18 today and the reasons why are not sin. Mohler still paints with a broad brush and alienates the very one's he is trying to reach.

528 posted on 01/18/2006 5:38:17 AM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: WKB

...count me as agreeing with Mr Mohler.

jw


529 posted on 01/18/2006 5:44:47 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: WKB
Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says it's "an absolute revolt against God's design" if husbands and wives purposely avoid bearing children.

If having NO children is an "absolute "revolt," does the Reverend deem bearing only one child mere "mutiny"??

530 posted on 01/18/2006 5:46:14 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: WKB; dixiechick2000; onyx; bourbon; wardaddy

Donations must be down. Time to breed new ones.


531 posted on 01/18/2006 5:48:20 AM PST by Yudan (You tryin' to tell me Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?)
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To: Awestruck

Or if the woman you're supposed to marry decides all of a sudden she feels the need to try and get back with her ex. The same ex who abandoned her when she refused to get an abortion for the pregnancy he caused, never paid a dime to her to help care for his child, then became and alcoholic. Of course, when said unstable and heartless woman forgives that, spends a grand total of 12 days with him, all while professing her continuing love for someone else (read: me) then after those 12 days, marries him, thereby stomping a mudhole in my heart, maybe, just maybe children aren't such a good idea.

Yes, I am bitter, and yes, I know I should consider myself lucky that it happened now as opposed to later, but it's just not that easy. Not when everything you've been looking for for 30 years is found in this woman, who then proceeds to do the above. My year has sucked thus far.

Been bottling this up for days now.

[/end rant]


532 posted on 01/18/2006 6:03:19 AM PST by Romish_Papist (iuxta est Dominus contritis corde et confractos spiritu salvabit.)
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To: WKB

This is a case where I can most definitely agree with the addage: "Hate the sin, love the sinner". I'd be happy with the "Love the Sinner" as a standalone statement as it pertains to couples that wish to remain childless.


533 posted on 01/18/2006 6:35:51 AM PST by Woman on Caroline Street (Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.)
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To: Romish_Papist

My heart goes out to you... there are some really stupid and heartless people in the world.. and they should never procreate..

Hugs


534 posted on 01/18/2006 6:36:46 AM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Free Baptist

Hey Free Baptist, are you in the States now?


535 posted on 01/18/2006 7:08:54 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: CajunConservative; WKB

Here's his reply - you've probably read it since you frequent there...

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/?adate=8/20/2004

The thing I just realized is that this whole discussion apparently took place in 2004 ... which was not indicated in the original article that WKB posted. The site seemed to lead us to believe these are current comments - also obviously the CNN piece did not go into the full text - but focused of course on the "controversial" soundbite.

In his reply he says he does NOT advocate high school kids marrying - nor does he believe that people should marry just for the sake of marrying - but rather seek wise counsel. (Which IS biblical - just can't think of the verses)

From what I can tell his viewpoint is not different than my own - or from that which I was taught. My only concern is that he doesn't use verses to back things up.. But frankly it's not something that I'm worked up about - so I probaby won't dig it all up..

He's talking to believers - those who are Christian's by rebirth (from what I can tell). Those believers who challenge what he says should do so using scripture - just as he should be using scripture to back it up.. ,-)


536 posted on 01/18/2006 7:10:58 AM PST by pamlet
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To: Dawsonville_Doc

Not saying whether you should or should not have children, but personally speaking, a surprise pregnancy at the age of 41 (after 13 years of secondary infertility) taught me that God can and does help His children.

I was very afraid about the money situation, but the Lord provided all we needed.


537 posted on 01/18/2006 7:14:51 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: kms61

I think of my great Uncle often. He was a wonderful person.


538 posted on 01/18/2006 7:15:49 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: linda_22003

Keep in mind that this man is speaking to Christians. And Baptists.


539 posted on 01/18/2006 7:19:24 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Full Court

I am Christian, but not Baptist (and most certainly not Southern Baptist!), so it's nice to know I'm off the hook. :)


540 posted on 01/18/2006 7:23:04 AM PST by linda_22003
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