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Childlessness A Sin, Southern Baptist Leader Says
KWTX ^ | 1-17-06

Posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:49 PM PST by WKB

Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says it's "an absolute revolt against God's design" if husbands and wives purposely avoid bearing children.

On his Web site and other articles and interviews, Mohler argues that "marriage, sex and children are part of one package" and that "to deny any part of this wholeness is to reject God's intention in creation and his mandate revealed in the Bible."

In a CNN interview, the Baptist leader added, “We grow up by having children. Without that responsibility, we have a generation of perpetual adolescents just growing old."


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To: WKB
"Please show me Chapter and verse where God "sanctioned" polygamy."

And at the same time you will be showing where it was prohibited in the OT?

481 posted on 01/17/2006 8:47:26 PM PST by CWOJackson (tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in the Star Wars trilogy?)
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To: Full Court

Laugh - that sounds like me... I could keep 200 people straight - get 'em trained - coordinate with the vendors to open the site.... AND make sure everything was up and running for the first month handing over a nice neat little package to the manager ... YET try to get my 16 year old to do a proper research paper without one of us killing the other - forget it!


482 posted on 01/17/2006 8:49:53 PM PST by pamlet
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To: mafree

Yes, you have a good point. :-)

Do you have any children?


483 posted on 01/17/2006 8:51:54 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: tallhappy
"Liberalism is heavy on the not having kids."

Of course, the benefit to liberals not having kids is that eventually they become extinct.

484 posted on 01/17/2006 8:53:45 PM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: sweetliberty

You have a very interesting website!


485 posted on 01/17/2006 8:53:49 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: RobbyS
I don't see how even by a cursy look around that you can't see how few "white"families have more than 2 children. Forty years ago, in any public gathering there would have been many more large families in evidence. It wasn't called the baby boom for nothing. Twenty years before, during the depression, the birth rate was lower, but the postwar prosperity at first led to the creation of many large families. It was the sexual revolution and the separation of sex from child bearing that led to the drop in the birth rate to a level below that of the depression rate.

I saw a thread in the past week or so about an alarming high percentage of abortions in NYC. I'm fairly certain the percentage would have far outweighed parents simply not planning to have children and as such not conceiving them. Yes I remember seeing family gatherings and some living hand to mouth existences due to large families the dad could not support. And I'm talking 1960's here and the men were willing to work. I also saw 9 kids suffer because the father refused to buy groceries and bought beer instead. I even saw Mr Deacon next door to them ask them to go to church every Sunday but refused the woman and kids water from his well as they had none so my family provided it instead.

I am the youngest surviving male to carry my grandfathers name. I am the only surviving male to carry my dads name. The only others is an uncle and a cousin who died. I did not have kids because there was a higher calling and need in my life at the time so my grandfather and dads male bloodline is finished. Yes I do think I did GOD's will. I don't think it was a sin I had no kids with my genes. It was because of what happened in life. We made a choice not to have a kid together and it took a lot of thinking to do so.

But as for your point here's mine. If the good Lord wants a lot more persons on earth he himself can produce them from rocks can he not? GOD doesn't insist when we marry we have kids but he does bless many with that choice. When you do have them GOD says provide for them as well. But there was one scripture where GOD did order a man to impregnate a woman and he did not do it.

I believe it is a husband and wife's choice that GOD gives all married persons to have children or not. But if HIS plan calls for Mr & Mrs Smith to have a child when they have decided not to he will place it on their hearts to have a child. Now here is where sin enters. If the then after that they do not try then yes it is sin.

486 posted on 01/17/2006 8:54:18 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Full Court

No kids- I've never been married and wouldn't have kids any other way. I'll admit to a lot of reluctance to make the kind of commitment that leads to marriage, which may not endear me to the good Rev.


487 posted on 01/17/2006 8:54:44 PM PST by mafree
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To: WKB

Bump!


488 posted on 01/17/2006 8:55:39 PM PST by balch3
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To: Full Court
"You have a very interesting website!"

Are you talking about my profile page?

489 posted on 01/17/2006 8:56:43 PM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: TheDon

Dr. Mohler is a brilliant thinker. Even if one disagrees with this or that which he contends, remember he is as well versed in Scripture as probably anyone else out there these days. I completely understand the reverend's point here and agree with him.


490 posted on 01/17/2006 9:01:31 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: iPod Shuffle
I know a couple that pops out one new baby after another, because a wealthy grandmother gives a $10k per year tax free gift for each baby they have. Uncle Sam throws in all kinds of goodies as well.

There are many living simple lives without two cars, two incomes and all the bells and whistles that "pop out" new babies as well...

The exceptional case of potential greed you anectdotally refer to conflicts with the general case of selfishness comprising a great portion of those that during thier lives chose not to bring new life into the world... Those that still can still have a choice...

491 posted on 01/17/2006 9:03:25 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: cva66snipe

Of course, it is their choice. The question is: Is it a good choice. A sin is not merely an affront to kid, it is, humanly speaking, a misstep. Misstep on the stairs and you may break your neck. If enough people break their necks, then the hospitals will be full. If enough people make wrong choices about parenting, then society suffers. If enough choose not to have children, then society may cease to exist.


492 posted on 01/17/2006 9:16:20 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Dawsonville_Doc; RedStateRocker
I would like to PERSONALLY deal, mano et mano with any jerk who impugns that my wife and I made the wrong decision.

You shadow boxing guys sound scared, not of opinionated jerks, but that you may have made the wrong choice.

Also, the concept of a "license to breed" is as ridiculous as saying that people who refuse to have children should be castrated.

493 posted on 01/17/2006 9:20:53 PM PST by Theophilus
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To: Melas

No, actually, although some Indochinese ethnic groups, most Asian groups are not inherently short. Witness the Japanese, who have growm 5" in the last two generations.

So before calling someone a doofus because you disagree with them, make sure you know what the hell you are talking about.


494 posted on 01/17/2006 9:22:39 PM PST by dangus
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To: sweetliberty

yes.


495 posted on 01/17/2006 9:24:47 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: LizardQueen

I didn't say you SHOULD bail on him. I did think you meant you left him, and I was meaning to say that such a decision was totally valid.

I did mean to assert, and I still will, that you should not have sex with anyone who you would not have children by. "Accidents" are inevitable. The birth control pill only achieves its high "effectiveness" by including a secondary drug to kill any "accidents" while the child is still tiny enough to be mistaken for "heavy flow."

If a woman is married to a man who would abstain from sex during an illness, blessed be her and her husband! But if a woman's husband demands that being married means they should have sex, than she does have grounds for anullment since he has separated the purpose of sex (love and procreation) from the recreational value of it.


496 posted on 01/17/2006 9:34:58 PM PST by dangus
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To: arasina

I was even talking about this one at dinner tonight.

Oy Vey!


497 posted on 01/17/2006 9:35:46 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (Saving the Republic - one joke at a time)
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To: LizardQueen

>> For all of you judgemental types out there - pray that's never a choice that you are faced with. <<

And yes, I will.


498 posted on 01/17/2006 9:35:49 PM PST by dangus
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

>> And then children leads to no sex, bills out the ass and a lot of headache from worrying about them all the time. <<

Natural birth control. :^D


499 posted on 01/17/2006 9:36:56 PM PST by dangus
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To: WKB

Lo, children are a heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
(Psalms 127:3-5)


500 posted on 01/17/2006 9:39:13 PM PST by razorbak
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