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NASA spells out CEV and Moon landing plans
Flight International ^ | 01/17/06

Posted on 01/16/2006 7:17:46 PM PST by KevinDavis

NASA could land astronauts on the Moon in the first days of April 2018, according to the just-released Phase 2 solicitation for its Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV). Launch of the first Moon landing mission has been set for 31 March 2018, while lunar outpost construction is to begin in 2019.

Astronauts could be on board the CEV for two earlier lunar risk-reduction flights, the first of which is scheduled no later than 31 March 2017 and could go round the Moon and back. The Phase 2 schedule also gives 28 September 2012 as the latest preferred date for the first CEV crew transport mission to the International Space Station (ISS).

“The schedule is a draft schedule. We’re using it to estimate life-cycle costs and address reusability issues. But we have said we want to return to the Moon in 2018,” says NASA.

The Phase 2 solicition specifies three CEV variants. Block 1A is a crewed, pressurised vehicle for low-Earth orbit missions; Block 1B is an uninhabited, pressurised vehicle for ISS resupply; and Block 2 is a crewed, pressurised vehicle for lunar missions. NASA expects minimal subsystem changes between Block 1A and 1B, while Block 2 should only see software changes.

Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman/Boeing are competing for the CEV development contract, to be awarded by 7 August. The winner will provide a Block 1A and 1B CEV, an iron-bird test rig, and two “production CEVs” for risk-reduction flights (RRF).

(Excerpt) Read more at flightinternational.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cev; moon; nasa
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1 posted on 01/16/2006 7:17:49 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 01/16/2006 7:18:32 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: KevinDavis

2018!?

So much for the mass colonization of space in my lifetime. And I'm 21!


3 posted on 01/16/2006 7:23:00 PM PST by Terpfen (Miami goes 9-7! Go Saban!)
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To: KevinDavis
The Phase 2 schedule also gives 28 September 2012 as the latest preferred date for the first CEV crew transport mission to the International Space Station (ISS).

Sooo...that's 6y 8m 12d until a manned US vehicle next gets back to the station? Or are there other manned vehicles in the works?

4 posted on 01/16/2006 7:23:26 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: KevinDavis
Let's see, we announced in 1962 that we would land on the moon before the end of the decade...and we did it in 1969. Seven or eight years. I remember it well.

Now, having already done it several times back then, and having much better technology, we are announcing in 2006 that we will land again in 2019? 13 years from now?

Sounds pretty lame and crazy to me.

At least we are going back..

5 posted on 01/16/2006 7:28:12 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Most of the technology and approaches developed for our moon landings were developed SOLELY for that. As a result, almost none of that technology was applicable for actual space travel.

Hopefully, the Moon will be seen as a testing ground for long term space habitation. This means an entirely new approach vs a large rocket and a lander. Thirteen years might seem long, but maybe we're working on real "future" technology.


6 posted on 01/16/2006 7:30:38 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Terpfen

I've just about given up getting to space myself. Now I'm pretty much giving up on seeing a U.S. citizen land on the moon again. Good job NASA.

In 2018, it will have been 49 years since we first landed on the Moon. Need I say more.


7 posted on 01/16/2006 7:30:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: Jeff Head

...back(wards)!


8 posted on 01/16/2006 7:31:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: KevinDavis

> ... lunar risk-reduction flights ...

So, is this, like, re-doing Kittyhawk but under FAA
Part 135?

We know it is possible to send people to the moon and
get them back. Dangerous yes, but proved possible. The
chief reason why Apollo was cancelled was that there was
no compelling reason to keep sending people there at the
time.

What now is the compelling reason? I can think of some,
but these reports never lead with them, and they need
to, given the astronomical expense, and what other
high-yield space stuff could alternatively be done
with those funds.


9 posted on 01/16/2006 7:32:22 PM PST by Boundless
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To: Jeff Head

Good point about 62-69 and 05-18.


10 posted on 01/16/2006 7:32:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: Jeff Head

Blame islam. Someone should add up all the extra costs and time we spend on having to deal with islamic terrorism these days. It must be a staggering amount.


11 posted on 01/16/2006 7:33:35 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: SJSAMPLE
Well, seems to me, as an engineer, that we could get there a lot quicker, establish the base, and be that much further ahead when it comes to developing new technologies with the benefit of the moon base and that environment to launch from for Mars. That's the stepping stone and I know we could get back to the moon a lot quicker if we had the will.

IMHO, this is much more about politics and budgets than it is about technology.

12 posted on 01/16/2006 7:33:50 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

In 200 years, people will look back and laugh at how long it took us to get into space... while waiting in line for an emmigration permit from the Bureau of Space Administration.


13 posted on 01/16/2006 7:35:25 PM PST by Terpfen (Miami goes 9-7! Go Saban!)
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To: KevinDavis

We should have taken the space station and transported it to the moon where it could be assembled on the surface. It could have lasted nearly forever there.


14 posted on 01/16/2006 7:37:07 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi; All

Going the space station route was big mistake imho...


15 posted on 01/16/2006 7:38:39 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: solitas
"Sooo...that's 6y 8m 12d until a manned US vehicle next gets back to the station? Or are there other manned vehicles in the works?"

According to the press briefing on December 15, 2005, NASA has not yet abandoned a May, 2006 target date for the next flight of the Space Shuttle (STS-115) which will be a flight to the ISS. There could be several Space Shuttle flights to the ISS, perhaps an average of four per year, before the first flight of the CEV if all goes as currently planned.

16 posted on 01/16/2006 7:51:14 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: KevinDavis
At this point in time, with the delivery systems we have, you are absolutely right IMO. Our number one objective, and I'd place it in the same category as the Manhattan project, is to develop a craft that can take off from runways enter space and return to earth.

It must be able to carry a good sized cargo.

We are practically abandoning our advantage in space.

By now we should already have a runway to space craft. We should have already developed a craft that was built specifically to move around in space. We should have a third craft for exploration of the moon, able to land, take off and traverse the moonscape.

We should be going to the moon as commonly as we go to the other side of the planet by now.

We should have a facility specifically set up for docking and construction. We should have a few multiple dwellings, some weightless and some with gravity. Workers could work one or two week shifts in weightless conditions, then return to a gravity center to rejuvenate.

What has taken place in the last 35 years is best described in 'Tower of Babel' terms. Our best and brightest were confounded. They lost the ability to work together and conquer space.
17 posted on 01/16/2006 7:51:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: Unmarked Package

The way nasa is going, I can just about believe four flights per YEAR; let alone four flights to the STATION...


18 posted on 01/16/2006 8:00:06 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: Terpfen

It's going to take them at least 12 years to repeat what the Germans could do in 8.

NASA needs to clean house from the top down.


19 posted on 01/16/2006 8:00:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: SJSAMPLE
As a result, almost none of that technology was applicable for actual space travel.

Ever hear of Skylab?

20 posted on 01/16/2006 8:01:40 PM PST by PAR35
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