Posted on 01/16/2006 3:05:20 PM PST by warpcorebreach
Dennis Rader’s pastor sought permission to perform a jailhouse exorcism on the BTK killer but authorities wouldn’t allow it, the Rev. Michael Clark told an Overland Park audience Sunday. Clark believes demonic forces drove Rader to murder 10 victims in the Wichita area, he said at Holy Cross Lutheran Church. In response to an audience member’s question, the Lutheran pastor said he spoke at length with the Sedgwick County sheriff about performing the exorcism. The sheriff politely refused to allow it, Clark said. “Dennis was influenced, I believe, by some kind of demonic force and that played a role in the choices and decisions he made,” Clark said earlier in his speech, adding that Rader still had a choice in how to react to the demons.
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If the exorcism is successful would he be released?
Yeah, no kidding!
It would not surprise me that he is posessed, but all things being equal you should do the exorcism BEFORE he kills all those people. Now you just let him sit in jail with his demons and since he is not elgible for execution. He can stew about what he did for the rest of his miserable horrible life!
How anyone could not believe in good and evil.
He reminds me of the book This Present Darkness...
..and the moment the church folk realized they had let Satan become part of their congregation.
In the book he said...'You invited me in'..
Chilling...
That is why one would hope/pray for discernment.
Surely, this man gave off clues.
Good decision on the part of the authorities. A Protestant minister does not have the faculties to adequately perform such an exorcism rite. The basis for "The Exorcist" was a Mt. Rainier boy who injured the Lutheran pastor and eventually the exorcism had to be performed at St. Louis University by Jesuits.
I didn't now that Protestants even believed in exorcism. Surely the guy is possessed. Where's a herd of swine when you need one........
Actually, in reviewing the confessions and crime letters from several serial killers, it seems demonism is prevalent in many of them.
Ted Bundy described such a "force" that would not let him alone until he killed violently.
In one of the the Zodiac Killer's first notes, he also refers to a "thing" that wouldn't leave him alone unless he killed.
Jack the Ripper's letter are heavily demonic in nature.
David Burkowitz describes being delivered from demonic possession when he repented and received Christ as Savior.
Mark Chapman describes a deliverance from demonic spirits in a rare interview several years ago.
Of course, several serial killers have been openly Satanic, like Richard Ramirez, and Henry Lucas.
I would say that serial killing is simply too aberrant of behavior to simply be some psychological condition, (no matter how described or supported.) Remember all those "multiple personality" cases from several years ago, (whatever happened to all that stuff, anyway?) Shear demonism, (if it truly exists.)
Demons are REAL. They are not some myth or fantasy, but are actual fallen angels that possess supernatural powers. They can enter into people via some form of abominable sin, like witchcrafting and necromancy, (communicating with dead spirits.) Once in, they are impossible to remove except by means of repentance towards God and faith towards the Lord Jesus Christ.
Some can be cast out by simply commanding them in Jesus Name to depart. Others are far harder, and, as Christ Himself declared, "This kind comes out only by prayer and fasting." Therefore, I would imagine the demon(s) present in Dennis Rader is/are quite powerful, and would require significant spiritual preparation.
(BTW, to any scoffer reading this. You are not immune from the influence and danger of these fallen spirits, REGARDLESS of your current opinion. Once these beings enter into a person, they are impossible to remove except by the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.)
Of course, that was before the Jesuits signed up with the other team!
Oh sure, imagine if you had special glasses so that you could "see" these things in people. you'd probably be shocked.
Oh, by the way- safe bet?-- Howard Stern... Don't need special glases for that one. ha
Is the study of serial killers your hobby or you just dropping names?
Does not all authority come from Christ? I think that name transcends any "rite" or human authority you may be appealing to. I think your god is too small.
Regarding MDC:
"As he related it to Gaines, he felt the Holy Spirit come down and say there were demons inside him. "And I asked in Jesus' name [for them to come out]. My face was snarling and it came out my mouth, this thing, and it was gone. And I said, `I'm ready, God, let's get 'em all out, let's go.'
"During that hour six came out. [They were] the most fierce and incredible things you ever saw or heard in your life hissing, gurgling noises and different voices right out of my mouth. The way I was acting cursing and things like this weren't me, and when they came out I could sense these things coming out of my mouth, hissing and awful gurgling and grinding and I could feel that part of my personality was gone.
"Believe me, Jim, I wasn't doing this. Something was happening to me."
"I believed him," Gaines writes.
Regarding Ted Bundy:
Ted Bundy was featured in a February 1996 A & E cable broadcast of the program Biography moderated by Jack Perkins. The program said this about an outside force which contributed to Bundy's crimes:
Now again, he would never admit that he "heard voices," because he knew that was insane. But, he would describe someone as "another Ted". This other Ted would start talking to him in this growling voice and point out that this woman thinks you could never have her. 'Look at her walking by. What is she thinking about you ...' And work him up into this hatred where then he would start this process of stalking ..."
Read reply #10. He's dead right. Read up on the topic.
David Burkowitz describes being delivered from demonic possession when he repented and received Christ as Savior.
Mark Chapman describes a deliverance from demonic spirits in a rare interview several years ago.
I know the man, Don Dickerman, who performed both of those deliverances. He's gentle and quiet, never charges for his work, and is very unassumming. He's also very good. A deliverance really is something to see, though they're nothing like they're portrayed to be in Hollywood. Demon infestastion (not really "possession") is much, much more common than the church believes it to be.
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