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Scot Cardinal: Gay Adoption Makes Children “Guinea Pigs in Some Distorted Social Experiment”
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/16/05 | Terry Vanderheyden

Posted on 01/16/2006 1:59:16 PM PST by wagglebee

EDINBURGH, January 16, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A decision by Scottish lawmakers to allow same-sex couples to adopt has been condemned by Roman Catholic prelate Cardinal Keith O’Brien, who warned that the measure would make Scotland’s orphans “guinea pigs in some distorted social experiment.”

The Cardinal has asked that Catholic adoption agencies be allowed a “conscience clause” to exempt them from the ruling, so as not to be forced to place children in homes with same-sex guardians. O’Brien is worried that Catholic adoption agencies would eventually be forced into placing children with same-sex couples.

Galloway Bishop John Cunningham, chair of the national committee for pastoral and social care, stated: “If the proposals go ahead as they stand, the bishops would certainly expect an exemption for faith-based adoption agencies,” according to a Times On Line report. “We are disappointed that the executive do not seem to have recognised the unique contribution that a stable married couple can make to the upbringing of children.

“We also have grave reservations concerning the ability of same-sex couples or unmarried heterosexual couples, however loving they might be, to provide the stability and the role models a married couple can,” he added.

The new law allows all unmarried couples – whether heterosexual or homosexual – the option of adoption. Earlier laws allowed one member of a non-married couple to apply to adopt a child, while the second member applied for a residency order. The UK outside of Scotland brought in a similar law allowing same-sex couples to adopt or foster a child in December.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: adoption; cardinalobrien; catholicchurch; europeanchristians; guineapigs; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; labrats; orphans; scotland; socialexperiment
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“We also have grave reservations concerning the ability of same-sex couples or unmarried heterosexual couples, however loving they might be, to provide the stability and the role models a married couple can,” he added.

It has been my lifelong belief, that with VERY FEW exceptions, adoption should be reserved for married couples who cannot have children on their own. All of these other groups are fully capable of having children through normal means, yet they are selfishly denying those who cannot do so.

1 posted on 01/16/2006 1:59:21 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: NYer; Salvation; narses; Coleus

Ping.


2 posted on 01/16/2006 2:00:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K; scripter

Homosexual agenda ping.

Let me know if you need me to keep pinging.


3 posted on 01/16/2006 2:04:46 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
The Cardinal has asked that Catholic adoption agencies be allowed a "conscience clause" to exempt them from the ruling...

Well, it's pretty safe to say that the leftists will not permit such a thing and they'll probably get their panties into a wad for the Cardinal daring to imply that favoring normal families is an act of conscience.

There is another solution, of course, just stop placing children in any nation where they'll be forced to place them in the hands of sexual degenerates. Ship them all to foreign counties and to God-loving parents.

4 posted on 01/16/2006 2:20:08 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: wagglebee

Why should a married couple who can have children be denied the priviledge of of adopting a child? Can't they do both?


5 posted on 01/16/2006 2:23:03 PM PST by em2vn
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To: wagglebee
A decision by Scottish lawmakers to allow same-sex couples

Can we just cut the crap. Be precise, it's lesbian couples. Most homosexual men are too busy in bath houses. The misandrist lesbians want to assert control over the rearing of children. They want total control.

6 posted on 01/16/2006 2:24:48 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: wagglebee
Children as Guinea Pigs in Some Distorted Social Experiment?

So, what's new about this? U.S. pubic schools have been experimenting for decades.

7 posted on 01/16/2006 2:26:23 PM PST by polymuser (I wish Republicans had a majority.)
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To: em2vn

I don't know if anybody else remembers this, but in 1975 (not THAT long ago) homosexualty was listed as a mental illness by the American Psych. Assoc. What changed?

THE POLITICS! The Democrats discovered another victim's group.


8 posted on 01/16/2006 2:26:41 PM PST by kjo
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To: wagglebee
Proud to call Cardinal O'Brien a stand-up Christian Brother.

H.E. Keith Michael Patrick Card. O'BRIEN

I think that H.E. stands for His Eminence, but a Catholic Freeper would have to confirm that.

9 posted on 01/16/2006 2:28:25 PM PST by BoneHead
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To: wagglebee
It has been my lifelong belief, that with VERY FEW exceptions, adoption should be reserved for married couples who cannot have children on their own.

Now, seriously, when was the last time any of these PC types ever had a conversation on-the-level about this subject with the principle of the child's welfare uppermost in mind?

IMHO I agree with you and would add the codicil that children who can't find married couples willing to parent them really are wards of the government, or of the philanthropic society.

Do you recall how, just about the time this subject came up, that someone ran a press campaign (articles, book, movie rights, etc.) about the horrors of church-run social agencies in Ireland in the 1940's? Remember that one? That wouldn't have been a gay attack on the RCC and its homes for wayward girls, would it? And on the whole idea of pastoral social care in general?

Comments, please.

10 posted on 01/16/2006 2:28:31 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: wagglebee

I imagine there'd be many who would oppose an exemption for Catholic agencies and would be glad to see them get out of the adoption business.


11 posted on 01/16/2006 2:35:22 PM PST by RonF
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Although I have no real data to prove it, I tend to agree with you. I work in the art/picture framing industry, which alot of gay men work in. I would dare say that the majority of these men do not even like children, much less have the desire to raise them.


12 posted on 01/16/2006 2:35:40 PM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: em2vn
Can't they do both?

Why would someone who is capable of having their own kids... want to covet these children ....from those who can't have their own? (speaking of heterosexual couples, of course)

13 posted on 01/16/2006 2:36:34 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: BoneHead

apparently he's a big liberal who was got his red hat by accident and was subsequently forced to make a profession of faith before actually becoming a cardinal.

on other forums people have said the source is distorting the Cardinal's speech to make him look orthodox

there were threads on OBrien when he got his red hat. maybe someone else can find them


14 posted on 01/16/2006 2:36:54 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman
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To: wagglebee

At some point, the Church is going to have to stop taking money, getting tax breaks and funding social welfare activities. Sad but true. The true meaning of the separation of church and state is the recognition that money and politics corrupts the religious. It is not to keep religious speech out of the public square. Take your kids out of public schools. sigh.


15 posted on 01/16/2006 2:37:58 PM PST by Mercat (sometimes God calms the storm, sometimes he lets the storm rage and calms the child)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

True, Ranger, with the exception of a few of our male homosexual legislators, who have kids living with them, for the purpose of using them to further the agenda. One even cried on the floor of our state Congress about "it's for the children, like mine!" It was so obvious that is why they have said children. Those poor babies!.


Then again, some female homosexuals use these kids for the same purpose. Send them to Christian schools under false pretenses, to push their agenda for them. Best line regarding that that I have heard in some time was "If you are a pacifist, you don't send your kids to military school,


16 posted on 01/16/2006 2:59:49 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: BoneHead
You are correct. The proper form is: His Eminence (First name) (Middle name/s) Cardinal (Last name).
17 posted on 01/16/2006 3:00:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: kjo
Maybe, or was it the Homo's discovered the Democratic Party, and served themselves up as victims. Paying lots of money to them, FOR their victimhood is probably more accurate.is probably the most
18 posted on 01/16/2006 3:02:40 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: wagglebee; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


19 posted on 01/16/2006 3:18:40 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: wagglebee
Homosexual agenda ping.

Did you know that "ping" is an acronym?

It means Packet InterNet Groper.

That makes a "Homosexual agenda ping" even more poignant.

20 posted on 01/16/2006 3:22:17 PM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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