Posted on 01/15/2006 10:30:09 PM PST by HAL9000
Reuters -
U.S. HELICOPTER SHOT DOWN NORTH OF BAGHDAD -- WITNESSES
My take on you, RushCrush.... You were the one who started being hostile. You started off assuming Allegra was someone who didn't know anything, and rather than just admit it when you were proved wrong, you changed it to imply she was safe in the green zone, and therefore still didn't know anything. That to me is more than a little despicable, as first off the intel and command centers are right there with her, secondly being in the green zone is absolutely not safe.
Why can't some poster simply say "Oops! Sorry", and leave it at that, rather than twisting all over trying to prove they were never wrong?
Wait a minute. House to house searches means US soldiers terrorizing Iraqi women and children. That's what John Kerry says...I'm not sure we can do that. Maybe we should just lob a few rockets instead.
If they used a rocket, where did the 'insurgents' get it? Iran's a likely source. Let's see. Developing nukes which they plan to use asap. Threatening obliteration of Israel, threatening to use oil as a weapon. When is enough enough?
Keep safe and well!!! (And keep your powder dry, and aim for the whites of their eyes.)
Thanks. ;-)
A friend, whose Marine son is in Fallujah, and I spoke last week and he began weeping. He was proud of his son's service, but worried. His son had sent him a parcel, no phone call for three days..and he usually calls every two, three days. The father was frustrated because of the lack of socks, underwear, everyday necessities, including G.P.S. systems. He said they had one for every seven Marines, so he bought one and sent it to his son. The bottom line is that America is one big family. Every single soldier over there is our son or daughter, and we keep them in our hearts and prayers.
Huh, very interesting analysis indeed at ThreatsWatch. UN troops to go into Afghanistan? Oh, boy. That's asking for it.
BTTT
Careful there dude. Allegra's done the do.
ALLEGRA IS IN IRAQ.
{{{HUGS!!}}}
And thank you.
I think this entire forum needs to take a timeout.
First off, no matter who vehemently we may scream about tactics and all that crap, let's remember that we have PROFESSIONALS over in Iraq, at this time. THEY KNOW how to handle this situation.
Secondly, Allegra and I crossed paths, in Iraq, before I even found FR. we didn't know it at the time, but we were in the same chow hall and PX many times at Camp Victory.
Third and final, there are some on this forum, (none of whom I am replying to here I HOPE) that don't think we are winning the war in IRaq. I guess these certain individuals have forgotten who they are and are now listening to the MSM. Let me tell you, things over there now are 1000000% better now than they were when I got there in January of 04. I am sure Indy's daughter would say the same. Let the pros do their jobs.
Let this administration do it's job. But I have the topper here. THIS administration, unlike the previous one (Bubba), allows the generals in the field do their jobs. The administration (meaning Rummy) gives them the objective, but they allow the Generals and the field command take care of what needs to be done to get the job done.
Losing helicopters always sucks. Losing troops always is a downer (big time) but we are facing a highly determined and practically fanatical enemy. FOR the last time, 99% of it ISN'T Iraqi.
/Rant
allahscum video of rocket attack
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/army_of_mujahideen_claims_it_shot_down_apache_Jan_16_2006.html
They called in ordnance, & they lit up the sky like the 4th of July.
yeah.....
I was able to watch them (I was about a mile away at the palace at Camp Victory) detonate a cache of ready to go IEDs that were found near Camp Victory.
That was a huge boom and comparatively, they were small bombs.....
Iraq Chopper Crash Kills Two U.S. Crewmen By JASON STRAZIUSO, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 25 minutes ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A U.S. military helicopter crashed north of the Iraqi capital Monday — the third American chopper to go down in 10 days — killing the two crew members. A resident said he saw the smoke trail of a missile before the aircraft plunged to the ground.
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The military said the AH-64 Apache was conducting a combat air patrol when it went down in an area "known for terrorist activity." Officials said it was too early to determine the cause of the crash, and the names of the dead soldiers were not released. Apaches hold only a pilot and a co-pilot.
Video footage shot by AP Television News in Mishahda, north of Baghdad, showed smoke billowing from what was reported to be the crash site. Other helicopters circled nearby.
Two militant groups claimed they shot down the helicopter. Neither claim could be verified.
Rashid Khalifa, 27, who has a food and drink stand in the area, said he saw the attack. "I saw the smoke trail left by the missile," he said. "I heard a hissing sound, looked around and saw the helicopter losing control before crashing down."
One of the claims of responsibility was made in a wobbly video posted on the Internet by a group calling itself the Mujahedeen Army. The video showed a militant firing a shoulder-launched missile toward what appeared to be a helicopter. The aircraft in the video was hit, burst into flames and crashed to the ground.
The other group that claimed it shot down the helicopter was the Salahudin al-Ayoubi Brigade. Both groups have carried out previous attacks.
The number of fatal U.S. military helicopter crashes in Iraq has spiked in recent weeks, fitting a wartime pattern of more frequent accidental and combat crashes during winter months.
An OH-58 Kiowa Warrior reconnaissance helicopter crashed near the northern city of Mosul on Friday, killing two pilots. On Jan. 7, a Black Hawk with 12 aboard crashed in bad weather near the northern city of Tal Afar. All eight soldiers and four civilians aboard were killed.
The causes of those crashes have yet to be announced.
The overall safety record of Army and Marine Corps helicopters has been good, military officials and private analysts say, given the enormous amount of flying in often-harsh conditions.
Army helicopters have logged nearly 1 million flight hours since the Iraq war began in March 2003, with the UH-60 Black Hawk accounting for nearly one-third of the total, according to Army Aviation Warfighting Center records.
Seven Black Hawks have crashed during the war. The second-most heavily used Army helicopter, the AH-64 Apache, has crashed four times and the No. 3 helicopter, the Kiowa Warrior, has gone down seven times. Some were accidents, others were caused by hostile fire and some are still under investigation.
well, that's all fine and dandy. and i happen to agree with everything you said. but i take exception to anyone, including allegra, telling me not to be an armchair general simply because i made a comment. that's all.
My friend is at Task Force Echo, in Diwanyah. He's a 43 year old father of 2 little kids, Nat Guard not regular army.
He was in Bosnia for 18 months about 3 years ago, now this.
Every time I hear of a heli going down my stomach lurches BAD.
I recently sent him a big box that all of us at work had contributed to - we didn't know what he needed so there was a lot of toilet paper in there.
LQ
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