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Fla. Teens Surrender in Homeless Beatings (THANK HEAVENS!)
Yahoo! - The Associated Press ^ | 1/15/06 | Denise Katlette

Posted on 01/15/2006 4:22:38 PM PST by paulat

Fla. Teens Surrender in Homeless Beatings

By DENISE KALETTE, Associated Press Writer 3 minutes ago

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - Two South Florida teens suspected in the beatings of three homeless men turned themselves in to police Sunday, authorities said.

Family attorneys negotiated the surrender of Brian Hooks, 18, and Thomas S. Daugherty, 17.

They will face murder charges in the death of Norris Gaynor and aggravated battery charges in the videotaped beating of Jacques Pierre, said Capt. Michael Gregory of the Fort Lauderdale police.

They also are suspects in the beating of a third man, Raymond Perez, 49, whose case remains under investigation, Gregory said.

The teens were in police custody pending official charges from a grand jury, Gregory said. Police also were investigating whether the two may have been involved in other beatings and if they had accomplices.

"We do know there have been other assaults of homeless in Fort Lauderdale," Gregory said.

Pierre, 58, was beaten on the Fort Lauderdale campus of Florida Atlantic University. Gaynor, 45, was killed a few blocks away, and Perez, 49, was beaten in a Church-by-the-Sea garden.

It was not immediately clear if Perez and Pierre remained hospitalized Sunday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bastardboom; bums; divorce; dontdropthesoap; hobos; homeless; humandebris
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To: paulat

I am confused why you find my cultural references offensive. They only underscore the lack of justice in the US criminal justice system due to years of liberalism.


61 posted on 01/15/2006 5:20:47 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: skinkinthegrass
b/c he [Clinton] knew his political party would cover for him...

And he knew the Old Media would cover for him, too.

62 posted on 01/15/2006 5:21:36 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: paulat

Of course, if they hadn't been homeless, you would not be reading about it.


63 posted on 01/15/2006 5:31:55 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ARCADIA

I wonder what they'll do to a 17 year old. Probably nothing. So why bother taking him into custody?


64 posted on 01/15/2006 5:33:36 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: paulat

If they had just thrown them in the back seat of their car and taken them out and drowned them they would have had the start of a political career.


65 posted on 01/15/2006 5:33:47 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: jigsaw
b/c he [Clinton] knew his political party would cover for him...And he knew the Old Media would cover for him, too.

I didn't think distinction/separation would matter...ABCNNBC_BS (OLD MEDIA :) is The Democratic Party and vice versa...Associative Law of Politics/Corruption

66 posted on 01/15/2006 5:45:01 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: paulat

Single mothers?


67 posted on 01/15/2006 6:00:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Brilliant
Of course, if they hadn't been homeless, you would not be reading about it.

Were you born dumb...or have you just perfected being so?

68 posted on 01/15/2006 6:07:23 PM PST by paulat
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To: Brilliant
Of course, if they hadn't been homeless, you would not be reading about it.

Possibly, but I don't see anything wrong with some extra indignation from the public about this because the victims were homeless. I believe that when we finally hear the motive, it will just be some thrill killing by a couple of sociopaths. The homeless were targeted probably because they thought they could get away with it easier.

If this is turned political, and I am sure it will be, it will be that the "right wing media influenced these two bigots into attacking a poor liberal constituency group member"

69 posted on 01/15/2006 6:21:37 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: skinkinthegrass

Good point.


70 posted on 01/15/2006 6:22:08 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: paulat

>>>I can't imagine what was in these kids' minds....<<<

Nothing. That's the problem.


71 posted on 01/15/2006 6:23:47 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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To: LdSentinal

>>>Execute these punks.<<<

No. They need to suffer. Life as a prison-wife.


72 posted on 01/15/2006 6:25:21 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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To: paulat

It's true and you know it. The national media doesn't give a rip about the average joe being murdered. But make the victim homeless and suddenly there is outrage.

I am outraged at murder. Who the victim might be is irrelevant.


73 posted on 01/15/2006 6:34:23 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Strategerist

Does that hold true for all age groups of murderers or is there a difference between teenagers and adults?


74 posted on 01/15/2006 6:36:37 PM PST by skr ("That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests."--Andrew Jackson)
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To: Brilliant

You are looking for someone to pick on.

Please leave me alone.


75 posted on 01/15/2006 7:06:24 PM PST by paulat
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To: Pontiac
A society that fails to hold children responsible for their failures until it is too late.

The Friviolity of Evil

This is a piece in City Journal, always a good read, by the Englishman, Theordore Dalrymple.

Two nights ago, my wife related something that she discovered in her geneological research. Three boys in Blytheville, AR, circa 1937, were charged with stealing a Dr Pepper from a lady's back porch.

At the time, the boys were age 11, 12 and 14. Their family was dirt poor and they were mowing yards to help out -- it was the tail end of the Great Depression. It was a hot July afternoon in the Delta, the boys were thirsty, and the lady whose yard they were mowing had inadvertently left a carton of Dr Pepper on the porch while moving her groceries into the house.

They only took one bottle, and shared it among themselves.

She turned them in. The boys were arrested and charged with theft. They were found guilty and sentenced to the state reform school, where they would remain until they turned 18. The younger one would spend seven years in the slammer -- for a few sips of hot Dr Pepper. The judge made notations in the margin of the trial papers (which are still on record) -- "we can't let this happen", "these boys have to learn their lesson", etc.

Fortunately, all three boys did "learn their lesson" -- because after they were released they all went on to lead uneventful lives and raise families of their own. All three served in WW II...and survived.

Nonetheless, my wife and I were both stunned by the story and what seemed to us Draconian punishment. We shook our heads and wondered, "What were they thinking?".

How ironic that, a day later, I would run across Dalrymple's piece. And, now, this one...

76 posted on 01/15/2006 7:07:26 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Trueblackman
How long before Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the NAACP show up and blames Jeb Bush, George Bush and Republicans in general for this.

they won't. Only if the boys were black, would they even consider it, just to blame it on conservatives. Since these creeps are white, there will be no defense, which is fine by me.

77 posted on 01/15/2006 7:28:15 PM PST by DilJective (Proudly serving in the US Army)
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To: okie01
They were found guilty and sentenced to the state reform school, where they would remain until they turned 18.

That is brutal. I'd say they were over correcting. I remember my grandma (born in 1893,now deceased) saying her parents taught her that if she walked by an apple orchard and saw even apples that had fallen to the ground she was not to take one because it was the farmer's property.

But she never told stories about such, as you say, Draconian punishment.

I support teaching the ideals, but would suggest punishments should have more measure than the one you describe.
78 posted on 01/15/2006 7:38:01 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: starbase
I support teaching the ideals, but would suggest punishments should have more measure than the one you describe.

I agree.

But the contrast between the "Blytheville 3" and the two Broward County punks, or the culture that Dalrymple described, suggests that, if one must err, one should err toward the punishment favored in 1937 rather than none.

It seems to set a better tone for society...

79 posted on 01/15/2006 7:45:14 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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