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Pakistan Navy Set To Receive American Spruance Class Destroyer
PakistanDefence.com ^ | 12-08-2005

Posted on 01/15/2006 3:23:05 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile

December 8, 2005: In a good news for Pakistan Navy United States House of Representatives has given its final approval for providing USS Fletcher to Pakistan and other ships to Turkey, Egypt, India and Greece. This bill has been sent to President George Bush for signing after the parliamentary approval. The US senate has earlier passed the bill that will become a law after the president’s signs. United States will provide a Spruance class destroyer USS Fletcher in military aid to Pakistan after President Bush’s approval.

USS Fletcher is currently docked on Pearl Harbor. Ship can carry a crew of 382 including 30 officers. One of the unique features of Spruance Class Destroyer is its ability to launch cruse missiles. PakistaniDefence.com analysis show that Pakistan navy will upgrade some of the systems to its requirements specially reconfiguring of existing onboard missile systems to carry ship based Babur cruse missile. In addition to wide array of armament ship can also carry two helicopters.

Egypt will be given USS Raven and USS Cardinal while Greece will be provided a ship of the same category. United States will give Turkey a Spruance class destroyer ship USS Fletcher, while four countries including India will purchase warships from United States. Austin class amphibious warfare ship Trenton will be sold to India. It should be noted the USS Trenton was ordered by US navy on 17 May 1965 and is set to be decommissioned by 2007-08. [Click Here For Detailed Copy Of The Actual Approved Bill]


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cruisemissile; destroyer; fudgepakistan; navy; pakistan
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To: minus_273

"By numbers alone", based on the current US population, and the number of Democrat-voting citizens, from the agreeable logic that the Democrats are a threat to America's interests(a la Klington) and by your logic, America has more enemies in itself, than in India.


21 posted on 01/15/2006 8:01:20 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Saberwielder

" In 2005, we spent $20 million on direct eductional assistance to Pakistan and $1.5 Billion in total military related aid and "compensation." Tell me it makes sense."

2005 was also a year when we were fighting a war. ..


22 posted on 01/15/2006 8:47:14 PM PST by minus_273
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To: CarrotAndStick

i seriously doubt every democrat hates america. They may be misguided but hate america is a rather harsh term for every single one of them. Zell miller is a democrat as is joe liberman. Many dems voted for Reagan (sure that was some time back) many may also switch parties. Simply being a democrat does not not make one anti american, it is the stupid things some of the do that makes them anti american.

I am amazed you even posted that. This is FR and we hate liberals here, but it is foolish to think that. If there were an election between a Zell Miller type of Democrat and a Olympia Snowe type of Republican, who do you think will have more supporters on FR? Simply put, the republic needs more than one party. Even if right now the other party is run by a bunch of losers, that does not make every single member of the party anti american (as i showed with the two examples above). Some people are democrats because its a family tradition (see Zell Miller).


23 posted on 01/15/2006 9:00:23 PM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

Have you been reading the news about the virulent anti-US protests in Pak. right now? Don't put too much trust in Musharaff - the man was the godfather of the ISI (which created the Taliban).


24 posted on 01/15/2006 9:05:46 PM PST by indcons
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To: minus_273; CarrotAndStick

Yeah but CarrotAndStick's point is still valid...if you are going to take street protests by lunatic leftists in W. Bengal as an indicator of India's friendliness toward America (while ignoring ground realities), you should be prepared to use the same logic w.r.t. the dimocrats.

It was'nt Indians who abused Vietnam Vets after they returned from their service in the 60s and 70s. You may be better of worrying about the fifth column in this country instead of worrying about a friendly nation.


25 posted on 01/15/2006 9:10:03 PM PST by indcons
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To: Republican Party Reptile
If the US continues to apply the Kissinger doctrine to India and Pakistan it will blow up big time in the future and bring China into the equation.
26 posted on 01/15/2006 9:14:58 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: minus_273

Wow. I'm impressed by the depth of your intellect!


27 posted on 01/15/2006 9:17:06 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder; minus_273

Saberwielder:

Leave minus_273 alone......surely you don't mind some wishful thinking and twisted logic here and there /sarc

It is amusing to see how the anti-India crowd on FR considers Pakistan to be a better friend of the US compared to other counties in the neighborhood. With "friends" like these....


28 posted on 01/15/2006 9:23:00 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons
Yup. Some people cannot seem to realize that we are in a new paradigm here. The cold war is over.

The enemy today and for the next century will be radical Islam and no Muslim nation will ever be a true ally. Weapons sales to Pakistan need to be below a certain threshold and I'm afraid that threshold has been breached.

29 posted on 01/15/2006 9:29:28 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: indcons

"It was'nt Indians who abused Vietnam Vets after they returned from their service in the 60s and 70s"


Granted that is true. I doubt many indians were on our side. Would you agree with that?


30 posted on 01/15/2006 11:20:54 PM PST by minus_273
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To: indcons; Saberwielder

are you seriously arguing for a one party dictatorship? do you even understand how american democracy works?

and it is not so much anti indian, it is simply remembering a loyal friend and not trusting a nation which has repeatedly worked against the US. The same congress party led by a gandhi runs india as the one that ran india when it was an enemy of the US. I trust pakistan before i trust india simply because history speaks for itself. No matter how much you dislike it, you can't change history.


31 posted on 01/15/2006 11:24:59 PM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

Like the first WTC bombing that was carried out by Paki nationals? Sorry...you'll have to try again. You'll find no parallel of Indian citizens attacking their host country unlike Pakis in USA, UK, and elsewhere.

Looks like you have to learn some history before you comment on topics you know little about.


32 posted on 01/16/2006 1:00:55 AM PST by indcons
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To: indcons
"You'll find no parallel of Indian citizens attacking their host country unlike Pakis in USA, UK, and elsewhere. " hello, they were rioting in the UK very recently . By Asian, the article means south asians. Since it was a race riot, that includes Indians.
33 posted on 01/16/2006 8:18:36 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273
Hello!! You really need to understand UK media bias before you attempt to post such stuff. There were quite a few discussions on the nomenclature of Pakis being called Asians as part of the PC BS in UK...check the threads following the London bombings. If you are really interested and are intellectually honest, you wouldn't be making such points.

Looks like you are really making friends here, Ali....LOL
34 posted on 01/16/2006 3:27:11 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

" If you are really interested and are intellectually honest, you wouldn't be making such points."


seriously, thats quite a way of debating. Since you cant refute what i am saying, i am no longer informed or intellectually honest. Brilliant! somehow i am not surprised you posted that. Sadly, that was also the response i expected. It takes a bigger man than you to admit they are wrong.


I dont get your final bit esp considering i have been on FR longer than you have. I do like how you've called me "Ali" though. I guess that was intended to be some sort of derogatory comment. It's an interesting assumption, considering i am not even close to being a muslim or pakistani.

Name calling: always a sure bet to lose a debate.

Don't expect any more replies from me. You stopped being civil with that last bit.


35 posted on 01/16/2006 3:48:23 PM PST by minus_273
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