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Roseville Medical Marijuana Distributor Indicted
CBS13/Associated Press ^ | 01/14/2005

Posted on 01/15/2006 8:44:21 AM PST by Mojave

(AP) ROSEVILLE A federal grand jury has indicted a former Roseville medical marijuana distributor on drug and money laundering charges.

A 19-count indictment says Richard James Marino grossed two-point-seven-five (m) million dollars in the eight months in 2004 when he operated his medical marijuana store, Capitol Compassionate Care.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbs13.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: drugdealing; federaltyranny; jackbootthugs; medicalmarijuana; scam; statesrights; wodlist
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To: TheGeezer
It was unregulated drug trade that resulted in unethical business practices that killed people. And while it is probably true that the relatives of persons killed by poisonous formulations will not repeat business with the lethal vendor, eventually driving unethical vendors out of business, that market model is very unpopular with potential victims of unregulated, profit-motivated drug producers.

The FDA regulates the drug industry, not the DEA, but thanks for playing.

21 posted on 01/15/2006 9:54:14 AM PST by cryptical
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To: Mojave

During alcohol prohibition it was legal to get a prescription for whiskey for "medical" purposes. Millions of gallons were sold that way.


22 posted on 01/15/2006 9:55:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: cryptical
The FDA regulates the drug industry, not the DEA

The DEA arrests drug dealers.

23 posted on 01/15/2006 9:56:04 AM PST by Mojave
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To: thoughtomator
This isn't about pharmaceuticals, this is about declaring a plant illegal

A curious logical isolation, that. Do you assert that if the only conventional and contemporary use of a plant is likely harmful to the general welfare that the federal government cannot constitionally regulate its production and use? I know that in the past cannabis was used for production of hemp, but that usage slipped into oblivion because of superior subtances for rope and the more popular use of MJ as a drug.

I think the debate is not that a plant is arbitrarily outlawed, but whether use of MJ constitutes a threat to the general welfare. There is substantial evidence that it is such a threat, so I support the regulation of MJ.

Are you arguing more for the abolition of the DEA than anything else? Well, that will require the abolition of the FDA first, and I have already posted about that.

24 posted on 01/15/2006 9:57:58 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: Moonman62
During alcohol prohibition it was legal to get a prescription for whiskey for "medical" purposes.

Dr. Al Capone.

25 posted on 01/15/2006 9:57:58 AM PST by Mojave
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To: cryptical
The existence of the DEA is implicit to FDA function. Without enforcement, regulation is irrelevant. I suppose since I mentioned regulation, I might have referred to the FDA, but since I cannot picture an FDA without a DEA, it did not occur to me to so.

I believe my point to be still valid, even without mention of the FDA, although if FDA can enforce its regulations, that may make the DEA unnecessary. Since the nature of illegal drug trade is quite violent, however, removing enforcement to a separate agency was likely deemed necessary when DEA legislation was drafted. Inspecting a research or production facility is rather different and less violent than pursuing crack distributors.

26 posted on 01/15/2006 10:11:25 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: thoughtomator
I wanted to read the rest of the article, but the link failed. Does Yahoo yank stuff abotu a month old (the article was dated 12/12/05)? Besides, the active compoent

Come now, you can't be naive enough to believe that those trials were conducted with indifference to the outcome.

A lot of research was done long before the California experiment became an issue. Again, new research may vindicate MJ medical use, but so far the majority of research, much of it done by drug companies, points to MJ not being much of a pain management possibility.

...there is no Constitutional basis for the federal government to assert this power. How free is a man who cannot even choose his own medicine?

I think this is the kernal of the debate. The states certainly could regulate drug production and use, I suppose, but past experience in this regard is not good. As I wrote in another post, the California experiment may be the beginning, ironically, of a wave of states' rights issues.

27 posted on 01/15/2006 10:39:04 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: TheGeezer

Too bad the DEA is unconstitutional at a federal level.


28 posted on 01/15/2006 10:49:17 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Too bad the DEA is unconstitutional

Backwards. Too bad for your side that "medical marijuana" is scam run by criminals.

29 posted on 01/15/2006 10:54:01 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Too bad you're just a lame troll that has no intelligent rebuttal for your hypocritical views. {yawn}


30 posted on 01/15/2006 10:58:21 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
"A 19-count indictment says Richard James Marino grossed two-point-seven-five (m) million dollars in the eight months in 2004 when he operated his medical marijuana store, Capitol Compassionate Care."

The Libertarian drug pusher appears to be prison bound.

31 posted on 01/15/2006 11:02:13 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Now all you need to do is go after alcohol and tobacco pushers and you'll be able to finally sleep at night.


32 posted on 01/15/2006 11:05:28 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain

Moonshiners and cigarette bootleggers can share a cell with him.


33 posted on 01/15/2006 11:07:38 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Some day the jackboots can occupy them.


34 posted on 01/15/2006 11:29:47 AM PST by TigersEye (All Americans should be armed and dangerous!)
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To: TigersEye

You wear jackboots?


35 posted on 01/15/2006 12:56:41 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Drug warriors wear jackboots.


36 posted on 01/15/2006 2:17:06 PM PST by TigersEye (All Americans should be armed and dangerous!)
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To: Mojave
zero net result

Zero source.

GAO: Data too fuzzy to measure drug war

37 posted on 01/15/2006 4:03:58 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: TheGeezer
Patient testimony is called anecdotal evidence by academic researchers. It is given extremely low to no credence since patient testimony alone is very tainted by patient bias and predispositions. It is clinical trials, managed by professional researchers (not attorneys or politicians), that discover the science of a given preparation, and such trials have revealed that MJ is not helpful in pain management to any worthwhile degree.

According to the Institute of Medicine:

The accumulated data indicate a potential therapeutic value for cannabinoid drugs, particularly for symptoms such as pain relief, control of nausea and vomiting, and appetite stimulation.

Additionally, the risk/benefit ratio of MJ use is unacceptable when the MJ is smoked. Its very high temperature is more damaging to the mouth, trachea, and lungs of users than that of tobacco. Adherents of MJ use for pain (again, this is anecdotal evidence) have reported that ingestion of MJ is far less effective for pain management than smoking it.

Vaporizers can be used for marijuana. These combust the active ingredients but filter out nearly all of the toxins.

I think the debate is not that a plant is arbitrarily outlawed, but whether use of MJ constitutes a threat to the general welfare. There is substantial evidence that it is such a threat, so I support the regulation of MJ.

Several studies have been done which conclude that drug prohibition increases both violent crime and property crime. I can give you references if you like.

I wanted to read the rest of the article, but the link failed.

This link is current.

38 posted on 01/15/2006 4:29:21 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: JTN
Vaporizers can be used for marijuana. These combust the active ingredients but filter out nearly all of the toxins.

Pot advocates have said there are thousands of magic chemicals in pot. How does the vaporizer know which ones to filter?

An inhaler is being developed for Marinol, but you're probably not interested in that since it's legal, and wouldn't advance your agenda.

39 posted on 01/15/2006 5:13:30 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Moonman62
How does the vaporizer know which ones to filter?

THC vaporizes at a lower temperature than the toxic substances. The marijuana is not actually burned.

40 posted on 01/15/2006 5:25:17 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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