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To: starbase

The reason these things happen is that we live in a society that places very little value on children. We condone the hitting of a child because it's discipline (I always hear, "Who are we to tell parents how to discipline their child?")
Who cares if a child is beaten--it's discipline, right? We as a society condone this behavior. Why are we so shocked that this little girl was starved? How many times have we heard stories like, "If you're bad, you're going to bad without supper?" Withholding food from a child as a form of punishment? What sadist thought this up? I am deeply angered by what happened to this innocent child, but when we as a society look away and condone the physical punishment of children, what else do we really expect?


87 posted on 01/18/2006 11:10:04 AM PST by dalcanton
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To: dalcanton

"Who cares if a child is beaten--it's discipline, right?"

Troll, there's a difference between discipline and abuse.
Spanking a kid on the backside with four or five quick swats gets the idea across.
BEATING is something else entirely.


89 posted on 01/18/2006 11:39:45 AM PST by Darksheare (Tagline subverted for nefarious plans of nefariousness.)
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To: dalcanton; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; Conspiracy Guy; NYC GOP Chick; MeekOneGOP; ...

"Who cares if a child is beaten--it's discipline, right?" -dalcanton at post 87.

Check this one out.
Money quote above is a good synopsis of their entire post.
Check it out and see.


90 posted on 01/18/2006 11:45:07 AM PST by Darksheare (Tagline subverted for nefarious plans of nefariousness.)
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To: dalcanton; Darksheare
How many times have we heard stories like, "If you're bad, you're going to bad without supper?"

WOW!! I guess I am abusive in your book. For the last 2 of 3 nights the 4yo went to bed without supper because she refused to eat what was on her plate and I didn't hop up and make her a hot dog. You're painting with a very broad brush. Sometimes punishment fits the crime! Mind you, I am not excusing this girls murderer at ALL, but you can't equate sending a kid to bed without supper to torture and murder.

93 posted on 01/18/2006 11:54:19 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: dalcanton; Darksheare
Blaming it on Society?


94 posted on 01/18/2006 11:54:20 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: dalcanton
Yes, troll...we live in a society where trolls like yourself abuse children because they are unable to distinguish between 'spanking' and 'beating', between 'starving' and 'withholding of our Westernized 1000-extra calories in the evening', and between 'common sense' and 'liberal gobbledegook'.

Thanks for signing up today just to post your miserable, opportunistic exploitative screed.
96 posted on 01/18/2006 11:58:39 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: dalcanton; Darksheare; TheMom
The reason these things happen is that we live in a society that places very little value on children.

You live in a different society than I do.

Not properly disciplining a child is a form of abuse too.

If you are or ever become a parent I feel sorry for your kids.

97 posted on 01/18/2006 11:59:32 AM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
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To: dalcanton

Let me guess, you're just going to lay there and play dead?
You posted your tripe, now come back and defend it.


102 posted on 01/18/2006 12:03:51 PM PST by Darksheare (Tagline subverted for nefarious plans of nefariousness.)
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To: dalcanton

Bye.


104 posted on 01/18/2006 12:04:10 PM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: dalcanton

"The reason these things happen is that we live in a society that places very little value on children."

Conservatives place high value on children.
Liberals want to abort them.
Hmmm... who places little value on children?


106 posted on 01/18/2006 12:05:51 PM PST by Darksheare (Tagline subverted for nefarious plans of nefariousness.)
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To: dalcanton

Hello?
Do you have anything to say in defense of your trolling screed here?


110 posted on 01/18/2006 12:10:26 PM PST by Darksheare (Tagline subverted for nefarious plans of nefariousness.)
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To: dalcanton; Darksheare; meowmeow; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; dighton; ...
Hmmm, where in society do we condone beating children?

Where do we condone withholding food?

You sir are a troll in need of a Zot!

there is a difference in applying discipline with a rod as to beating with a fist or other object. I need not explain, I trust you have no children to make such comments.

Be gone with you!


119 posted on 01/18/2006 12:21:35 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (13th AF, 3rd TFW, 3rd AGS, 3rd AMU - ESC The Blue Screw will get you too! 86-89)
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To: dalcanton

A little humor but when I was small my mom and dad would punish me by making me eat the dreaded Meatloaf. I would sit at the dinner table alone until bedtime. This is a dreadful story and I believe these two will get away with it just like Joel Steinberg did, he is free. :(


127 posted on 01/18/2006 12:29:32 PM PST by angcat
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To: dalcanton
"we as a society look away and condone the physical punishment of children, what else do we really expect?"

You have an extremely hard time grasping reality. The fact that you make such dingbat statements proves it. Seems you can't differentiate between child behaviors that deserve punishmnet and those that do. To you a kid burglarizing a house is the same as spilled milk. Your're a liberal.

134 posted on 01/18/2006 12:56:28 PM PST by spunkets
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To: dalcanton
Who cares if a child is beaten--it's discipline, right?

Troll why don't you come over here and I will show your arse the difference....ok?
139 posted on 01/18/2006 1:44:20 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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