Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question

cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

[Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin]

"Murtha has stuck his ample foot in his ample mouth more times than is necessary to cast doubt on his opinion."

Why haven't the MP's called this idiot into their office, and perhaps take away that, "Hero" status/purple hearts if he doesn't button his lip?

[JLO]

[Kitty Mittens]

Thank you for Trying to Repost the Picture of Bush Sr. being Pulled Out of the Water! I'm on my Other Computer, but I still can't See it. (But Thank you for your Thoughtfulness in Trying to Post it!)

I have Seen a Video Clip of him being Pulled to Safety on the News a Couple of Years Ago; I was Amazed that the Clip Even Existed! God Bless this Dear and Courageous man!

[potlatch]

Thanks for the ping Tonkin. Good graphic!!

[Mr. Silverback]

Unless things have changed, or I'm losing my memory, you aren't "put in" for a purple heart. When you are treated for a wound by medical personnel they fill out a tag on the injury and that report makes it's way up the chain and the medal is awarded.

If that detail is wrong, it must be a mistake on my part. This guy is the real deal. I've not only seen the shrapnel, I've seen footage of him in Vietnam.

[Mr. Silverback]

Politics is war by other means, and just as in war we need to hit the enemy at their centers of gravity. For example, you don't go after every soldier in the enemy army just because they exist and could hurt you, you hit where it will gain you the most.

When some Freeper disagrees with you about what is and isn't an important center of gravity to hit at this moment, that doesn't make them a traitor.

[Mr. Silverback]

The draft is the last thing the Army wants, and Air Force guys I served with had nothing good to say about it. It is counterproductive at this point.

[jb6]

While I whole heartedly disagree with Murtha's stance, as a veteran of long term service, I am sick and tired of these attacks on the service of various veterans.

[JIM O]

I agree that is exactly my point.

[jb6]

Last Name, First Name
Rank
Title/Position

[grace522]

Most likely true but the wrong approach.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"When some Freeper disagrees with you about what is and isn't an important center of gravity to hit at this moment, that doesn't make them a traitor."

Just when did I say that made them a traitor?

[george76]

After 37 years, what rank did he retire...Lt Colonel?

[Bob]

Last Name, First Name
Rank
Title/Position

Or something very similar. I just received a replacement DD-214.

On the cover letter:

First Name Last Name (signed)

First Name Last Name (printed)

Archives Technician (printed)

Core 3, Team A (printed)

On the DD-214 (from 1975):

J. M. REYES, PNC, USN, ASS'T PERS.OFF.(typed)

BY DIRECTION OF THE C. O. (typed)

Separate block: written signature

[Marysecretary]

It would only take five minutes for the two of them to discuss their war stories. Neither had anything true to talk about. Cheez.

[TheWormster]

ROFLMAO...him and Kerry should get together and swap war stories. By the time they are done...they would have been both killed and raised from the dead.


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And then GW Bush could come along and tell his war stories?
Seriously, this is a stupid route to go down. If you think someone's policies, then say so. If you think their policies will be bad for the country, then say so and say why.
This whole thing of discussing what people did decades ago is rather depressing. Politics should be about the future, not the past.

[Mr. Silverback]

Perhaps you have never explicitly used the term "traitor" to describe the "Move On Freepers," but your statements about them clearly are meant to leave the impression that they are enemies of the troops, or at least that they "put politics 1st, then money, then the troops." In post 461 of this thread you said that they "are out to sabotage the 2006 and 2008 elections" and posted that over a photo of John Kerry stabbing a soldier in the back. Is that supposed to mean something other than treason? The only way you could imply it more strongly is to post a photo of Benedict Arnold and label it "18th Century Move On Freeper." If you're surprised I'm getting the "They're traitors" vibe from your posts, maybe you should read back through some of them and think about it a bit.

Yes, some of the people who disagree with you on Murtha and Kerry are hostile about it. That doesn't make them Kerry and Murtha's allies. If a prosecutor doesn't want to take a case to court because they won't get a conviction, that doesn't make them a criminal, or a lover of crime. Yet when someone believes that your tactics will not gain anything for the troops or the conservative cause, you publicly associate them with people who are guilty of treason, and often do so with illustrations that show someone committing treasonous acts. As I said, it would be difficult for you to imply it more strongly.

If you think these people really are DUers, then get some Freeper researchers together and see if you can bust them. My problem is I'd bet you'd lump me in with the "Move On Freepers" because I think there's no chance in the world we'd ever get Kerry removed from the Senate and shouldn't waste our time. Let me tell you, I sure as heck haven't spent the last four years doing troop support work so somebody can lump me in with John Kerry and Jack Murtha.

[Mr. Silverback]

And then GW Bush could come along and tell his war stories?

I am not in favor of giving much attention to Murtha's medals, but this is beyond silly. First, let's note that the President has not ever used his service as a qualification for his elected jobs, and Murtha and Kerry have used it as their foremost qualification. Second, let's review the record:

Kerry gamed the system for medals and committed treason.

Murtha may have gamed the system for medals, and is certainly giving aid and comfort to our enemies now.

GWB volunteered for Vietnam twice according to witnesses, volunteered to fly a plane known for killing pilots, and served his time honorably.

You don't have to think G.W. is a hero to see that there is no comparison between him and these scumbags. And as a veteran, I have no problem with a medlahound being exposed. I don't think we should make it a line of attack with Murtha, but I see no problem with it in general. Those who game the system deserve to be exposed, no matter how much later it occurs.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"Yes, some of the people who disagree with you on Murtha and Kerry are hostile about it."

And now they resort to getting my FR account suspended,
for what was a private discussion in FReep mail.

It was the 1st time ever that they resorted to this tactic.

Notice how they never say anything against hanoi kerry or cut and run murtha, BUT attack me.

Just keep in mind that
"Move On FReepers" "swore" klintoon, hitlery, hanoi kerry, sanbdi ber(bur)glar, al bore, jane beno,
would be prosecuted for
pardongate, chinagate, the bribes in upstate NY in the 2000 NY Senate race, waco, etc, etc,
"when" the "time was right".

Now we have to deal with hitlery because the
"Move On FReepers" told everyone to "wait"

I'm far from the only person on this thread, or in the forum, that has enough of the "PC" crowd.

The "PC" crowd is in fact the minority on FR.

Time to get to the basics.

Just ask Karl Rove who really won the Nov 2 2004 election


Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"I think there's no chance in the world we'd ever get Kerry removed from the Senate and shouldn't waste our time."

With a soon 6-3 US Supreme Court it's a no brainer!

It's not "my bright idea", it's what the law of the land says.

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html

And the FBI has proof of his treason.

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS