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Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

Posted on 01/13/2006 11:53:53 AM PST by paltz

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To: Laurita; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; OneLoyalAmerican; bkwells; ...
EVERYONE READING THIS TAKE NOTE
THE "Move On FReepers" ARE OUT
TO SABOTAGE the 2006 AND 2008 ELECTIONS

I'll bet they were behind the "movement" to get
"the white flag ad" pulled by the GOP.


461 posted on 01/15/2006 8:46:20 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On FReepers" who scream and howl "Move On Tonk, Get Over It")
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To: sakic
I have all the respect for his service, and accept the fact that he has earned those medals. I don't respect someone that needs to remind us everyday they are a hero and represents to us they are an expert.

I did my tour in Vietnam and sure did not want to be there. I am not an expert and am not a hero. I won't pretend that because my number came up in the lottery that I am special. I do want peoples respect that I served and did my job and I expect that the kids that are currently doing their job be supported and respected.

I know these highly trained troops know an awful lot more than I about their equipment and the level of success they are achieving than an old retired marine.

462 posted on 01/15/2006 8:57:08 AM PST by JIM O
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To: veronica

"The lunatics at DailyKos have linked to this thread. *snicker*"

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com

hanoi kerry and his own War Crimes in Vietnam

He was in command of a Swift Boat
and ordered his men to do these things.
Listen to this 1971 audio clip in hanoi kerry's own words.

Listen Here

http://www.streamload.com/jmstein77/Kerry2.mp3

hanoi kerry went before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in 1971
to accuse the United States military
of committing massive numbers of war crimes in Vietnam.

hanoi kerry 1971 TESTIMONY

http://www.c-span.org/vote2004/jkerrytestimony.asp

Legislative Proposals Relating to the War in Southeast Asia Thursday, April 22, 1971
United States Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, Washington, D.C.


463 posted on 01/15/2006 8:58:10 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On FReepers" who scream and howl "Move On Tonk, Get Over It")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


464 posted on 01/15/2006 8:58:18 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: JIM O

Fair enough and thanks for your service.


465 posted on 01/15/2006 8:58:48 AM PST by sakic
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Good One Tonk!!!


466 posted on 01/15/2006 9:06:03 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


467 posted on 01/15/2006 9:06:11 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I'll always stand by your side...


468 posted on 01/15/2006 9:12:49 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Perfect Picture, Tonk! Thank you for Helping me to Never Forget how Close we Came to having this Wicked man as our President!
469 posted on 01/15/2006 9:16:24 AM PST by Kitty Mittens
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I'd bet that the white flag ad was pulled simply because the Dems caved and most of them distanced themselves from Murtha. You will see the white flag ad or some new ad with the same message in October, and possibly September. How hard-hitting it is and how far ahead of the election it starts running will depend on how well things are going in Iraq. If it's very stable and troop levels are down significantly, it will be very harsh.


470 posted on 01/15/2006 9:19:55 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Do they sell walls there?"--Paris Hilton asks about Wal-Mart.)
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To: DJ Taylor
The Colonel's worthless Sergeant Major would reprimand the unit's NCOs for having a very messy battlefield and order them to hold a "police call" post haste, and then they would all load back up on their helicopter and fly back to their beach resort headquarters.

Sad to say these clowns are still around. In a couple os Squadrons I was the only SNCO in the unit that has been on the front line and I would have listening to herotic adventures of REMF e-9s. he only thing they had going for them is the art of B.S., no substance...Sitting their and listining to these Sgt York want-to-bes would piss me off like you wouldn't believe.


471 posted on 01/15/2006 9:25:35 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: DJ Taylor
The Colonel's worthless Sergeant Major would reprimand the unit's NCOs for having a very messy battlefield and order them to hold a "police call" post haste, and then they would all load back up on their helicopter and fly back to their beach resort headquarters.

Sad to say these clowns are still around. In a couple of Squadrons, I was the only SNCO in the unit that has been on the front line and I would have to listen to herotic adventures of REMF E-9s. The, only thing they had going for them is the art of B.S., no substance...Sitting there and listining to these Sgt York want-to-bes would piss me off like you wouldn't believe.


472 posted on 01/15/2006 9:30:30 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: paltz

It is predictable that he would be discredited. After all, he does not support the agenda of those who benefit from the war in Iraq. The pattern of such character assassinations are always the same: first, discredit anything positive or good that he has done (war hero). Second, make him out to be insane, or at least a bit flaky.
Murtha is courageous (to speak out against the US staying in Iraq) and sane (it would be insane to want to stay in Iraq much longer, since the US has gained nothing from the war and already it's cost a trillion dollars and over 2000 Americans and 30,000 to 100,000 Iraqis killed, the latter mostly civilians).


473 posted on 01/15/2006 9:36:14 AM PST by cmppc
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To: paltz
All commun...I mean democrats are liars.

Sign the 180 Murtha. Let's see what you've got.

474 posted on 01/15/2006 9:41:01 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Onelifetogive
Sheesh, is there not one actual hero in the who stupid Dim party?

Wes Clark. His Silver Star is the real deal. He volunteered to go to Vietnam and lead an infantry company, and he was hit four times by a sniper during an ambush. He propped himself up against a tree and directed the counterattack. And then he served an entire career.

And the Dems threw him overboard for John Kerry, who did four months, openly betrayed our nation, and then spent the next quarter century (while Wes Clark was serving the U.S. Army) undermining our national defense at every opportunity.

That tells you everything you need to know about their party. Wes Clark is a scary guy, but throwing him under the bus and then calling John Kerry a war hero is beyond the pale.

475 posted on 01/15/2006 9:43:38 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Do they sell walls there?"--Paris Hilton asks about Wal-Mart.)
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To: DJ Taylor
The Colonel's worthless Sergeant Major would reprimand the unit's NCOs for having a very messy battlefield and order them to hold a "police call" post haste, and then they would all load back up on their helicopter and fly back to their beach resort headquarters.

I just came back from church, and after all these years I got pissed off again after reading your post.
476 posted on 01/15/2006 9:44:14 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: cmppc

TROLL ALERT....Now like a good little boy get on back to DU...there are men here having a discussion and you wouldn't understand...


477 posted on 01/15/2006 9:48:37 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: cmppc
It is predictable that he would be discredited. After all, he does not support the agenda of those who benefit from the war in Iraq.

I warn my wife about people telling war stories...More often (about 75%) then not they are full of it. I haven't yet seen a first-account witness come foward and defend Murtha.


478 posted on 01/15/2006 9:54:06 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
How many Purple Hearts did you receive in Viet Nam?

I don't think it's productive for us to go after Murtha's PH record, but I'd like to note this for the record: In Late 2003, I was asking Freepers who wanted to look into John Kerry's record how many medals they had earned in Vietnam.

So...first you should be given pause because there may be fire producing this smoke, just like there was with Kerry.

And second, maybe you should pause because we who serve in the nation's armed forces serve the people, all the people, not just the ones who have served or won medals, and the citizenry has every right to judge that service.

479 posted on 01/15/2006 9:55:30 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Do they sell walls there?"--Paris Hilton asks about Wal-Mart.)
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To: jjmcgo; RVN Airplane Driver
I have not received a PH (or even served in combat) but I know one guy who refused a PH. He was put in for it by his CO, and when he found out about it he asked him to rescind it. He had taken a small piece of shrapnel (which is still in his arm) during a firefight, and he felt it was not deserving of a medal. Then there's the case of Max Cleland, who was given a PH because his higher-ups considered it the right thing to do for a man so profoundly wounded, even though he was clearly not a victim of enemy action.

So basically, I find it suspicious any time I hear of someone working their chain of command to get a PH.

480 posted on 01/15/2006 10:10:08 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Do they sell walls there?"--Paris Hilton asks about Wal-Mart.)
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