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To: pabianice

The first ever jet combat was a Gloucester Meteor against one of these 262's. The Meteor won, but be very glad that Hitler delayed jet research for about two years. I don't think Germany would have won the war with earlier jets, but the defensive advantage of fast short-time-of-flight fighter jets would have extended the war by about two years IMO.


31 posted on 01/13/2006 8:42:47 AM PST by agere_contra (Protectionism is Socialism - it's welfare for uncompetitive people.)
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To: agere_contra

Didn't think there was any jet to jet combat in WWII. The Meteors were stuck in the UK intercepting V1s and didn't have the range to reach Germany, anyway. Is there a link to this?


36 posted on 01/13/2006 8:45:45 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: agere_contra

I've always read that the first jet vs. jet combat was Korea, MiG-15 vs. Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star. I've never heard of the 262 vs. a Meteor. The Meteor, though a jet, really didn't have performance any better than a Griffin engined Spitfire or a Hawker Typhoon, Tempest.

Though if the A-bombs hadn't been dropped the first jet combat very likely would have been in the Second World War- the Lockheed P-80 vs. the Nakajima Kikka.

And though I hate to say this as an American- best-looking aircraft ever, IMHO the Supermarine Spitfire. Graceful, classy lines, a very elegant design for the brutal work of killing.


62 posted on 01/13/2006 9:10:43 AM PST by Gamera977
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To: agere_contra
The first ever jet combat was a Gloucester Meteor against one of these 262's. The Meteor won, but be very glad that Hitler delayed jet research for about two years. I don't think Germany would have won the war with earlier jets, but the defensive advantage of fast short-time-of-flight fighter jets would have extended the war by about two years IMO.

That's pretty much how I feel - Germany was doomed once we starting putting a severe crimp in their oil production/supplies. We would have won (and we had our own jet fighters on the verge of coming into service), but I think they could have disrupted things enough to make it last a little while longer.
78 posted on 01/13/2006 9:25:10 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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