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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; spunkets
[Watches do not reproduce, and therefore do not evolve.]

You have turned the analogy backward.

No, I don't. The purpose of the analogy, as used by the "design" people, is to disingenously imply that since it's obviously ludicrous to think of a watch assembling itself through natural processes (because it's not a natural object, and is known to be built by people), that it is equally ludicrous to think that the complexity in living things could have arisen through natural processes.

Where this analogy falls on its face is through its attempt to use a non-living, non-reproducing, non-natural thing (a watch) as a comparison to living, reproducing, natural things (organisms), when those differences make *all* the difference in the world when it comes to the kinds of processes which are at work. Things which reproduce are subject to evolutionary processes, which are very powerful builders of functional complexity, unlike the processes at work on the components of a watch.

The implication is that the watch could not be the product of evolution.

No one claimed that it was. But that's not the point you were actually trying to make -- by analogy, you were dishonestly trying to imply that *living things* couldn't be the product of evolution either, despite the fact that living things *do* indeed evolve.

Mules do not reproduce but are allegedly the product of evolution.

Oh, puh-leaze. They are the product of things which do reproduce, and have been subject to evolution. Don't be coy.

You are also making the same error as a previous poster. You are assuming evolution in your argument to prove evolution.

I'm not making a mistake and neither did he. I am "assuming" evolution because evolution does indeed exist and does indeed occur and does indeed produce functional complexity. These are established facts. Evolution is as real a process as evaporation or oxidation.

86 posted on 01/13/2006 1:47:41 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

" Evolution is as real a process as evaporation or oxidation."

Why..., why.... That makes you and Evaporationist (or maybe an oxidationist), or an Eva instead of and Evo. Didn't realize you'd had a sex change lately.


118 posted on 01/13/2006 5:05:55 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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