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Making a case for ID and evolution in classrooms (Florida to censor science textbooks)
Sun Sentinal ^
| 12 Jan 06
| Alva James-Johnson
Posted on 01/12/2006 6:22:24 PM PST by gobucks
*snip*
Next month, Broward County teachers will choose between two new science textbooks. One book toned down Darwin's impact on biology due to the prodding of Christian conservatives. The other includes a few paragraphs about intelligent design, which argues life is so complex that it must have been fashioned by a higher being.
Critics say they don't want intelligent design in schools because it's based on faith, not science. So publishers of the second book, Biology: The Dynamics of Life, have offered to remove the page containing the passages. And Superintendent Frank Till has said he would cut the page to eliminate the controversy if teachers pick the book.
But does anyone seriously think this flap is going away?
If it does, it will only be after all the theories are put on the table, allowing the fittest to survive, a process that Darwin called natural selection.
Will it be evolution or creation? I don't know. But it looks like creation is already in the lead.
According to the Gallup national poll taken in September, 53 percent of the of the 1,005 people sampled said God created humans in their present form the way the Bible describes it. Twelve percent endorsed the strict evolutionary perspective and 31 percent chose a modified perspective, believing human beings evolved from other species, but God guided the process. Four percent had another opinion or none at all. The margin of error was plus or minus 3 percent.
*snip*
It's sort of like the tree-falling-in-the-forest conundrum. If you've proven evolution and most people aren't convinced, is it really proven?
If evolution is allowed in the classroom, creation should be also. Plain and simple: To leave one out is censorship.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: creation; darwin; evolution; god; intelligentdesign
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To: Just mythoughts
Jesse Jackson has been saying for years that government institutions are based upon racism. Your comment does give old Jesse's claim a ring of truth. In in your mind there is some connexion between those two sentences that requires them to be in the same paragraph?
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posted on
01/13/2006 4:39:16 AM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
("What is the sense in 'atin' those 'oom you are paid to kill?" - Kipling)
To: Oztrich Boy
"In in your mind there is some connexion between those two sentences that requires them to be in the same paragraph?"
I can read the string of words you put together.
To: RaceBannon
"No, the good idea is leaving out the Godless and evil evolution that almost all sick political systems of the last 150 years were based on,like Communism and Fascism."
The Communist Manifesto - 1848
The Origin of Species - 1859
Yep I can see how evolution was the cause of communism... 11 years before Darwin published. lol
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posted on
01/13/2006 4:47:34 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: Just mythoughts
"Here is that ping I told you I would give you when you demanded a citation. The superiority of the "fittest" rings through the thread."
This is all you have? lol I didn't expect much, but I was surely expecting something.
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posted on
01/13/2006 4:49:53 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: CarolinaGuitarman
Interesting to read what gives evolutionists a lol, but of course as the master deceiver always says these threads are for the lurkers.
To: Just mythoughts
I can read the string of words you put together. I suppose we should be grateful that you can at least read the words.
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posted on
01/13/2006 4:54:24 AM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
("What is the sense in 'atin' those 'oom you are paid to kill?" - Kipling)
To: Just mythoughts
"Interesting to read what gives evolutionists a lol, but of course as the master deceiver always says these threads are for the lurkers."
There is as much or more *superiority* coming from the creationist/ID side here. You pinged me to this thread for what reason? Be specific. And who is the *Master Deceiver*?
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posted on
01/13/2006 4:56:39 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: CarolinaGuitarman
"There is as much or more *superiority* coming from the creationist/ID side here. You pinged me to this thread for what reason? Be specific. And who is the *Master Deceiver*?"
Never mind, point was made for the lurkers.
To: Just mythoughts
" Never mind, point was made for the lurkers."
In other words, you pinged me for nothing. And who is the Master Deceiver here?
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posted on
01/13/2006 5:07:41 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"In other words, you pinged me for nothing. And who is the Master Deceiver here?"
No, I told you why I pinged you, and you demonstrated what the mind of evolution accepts.
To: vik
"PS.
It should be pointed out, however, that Marx wanted to dedicate "Das Kapital" to Charles Darwin. Much to his credit, Darwin declined the honor...
DS."
Actually, this is a myth. Marx did send a copy of Kapital to Darwin, and Darwin did send back a polite letter thanking him, but it sat unread in his library. (You can tell because the pages of books needed to be cut before they could be read, and Kapital was uncut in Darwin's library.) Darwin said in the letter he knew very little about economics and politics. Marx never asked to have the book dedicated to Darwin.
What DID happen is that Marx' son-in-law wrote a book called the *Student Darwin* or something close to that, and sent it to Darwin asking for permission to have it dedicated to Darwin. Darwin refused, as the book was associated with atheism and he didn't think it was right for a scientist to get involved in that. He never was asked to have Kapital dedicated to him.
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posted on
01/13/2006 5:17:16 AM PST
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CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: Just mythoughts
"No, I told you why I pinged you, and you demonstrated what the mind of evolution accepts."
Yes, we want some evidence. You provided none for your point. You pinged me for no reason. This thread is like any other thread, with people getting cranky on both sides. If you had a point, you lost it somewhere.
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posted on
01/13/2006 5:19:04 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: gobucks
Only 12 percent swallow the Darwin creation story hook line and sinker. That is not me. I like-agree a lot of what Richard Dawkins has to say. He is not stupid though he is a godless atheist. Darwinism has gaps and holes in it. Nature is a beautiful wonder. Darwinism is debasing it
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01/13/2006 5:20:01 AM PST
by
dennisw
("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Evolutionists are always 'cranky', rarely do they ever get this explicit exposing what their little TOE is really all about.
I will leave it to the lurkers to read with discernment as to what has been said.
To: Just mythoughts
"Evolutionists are always 'cranky', rarely do they ever get this explicit exposing what their little TOE is really all about."
Again, you duck from giving evidence.
" I will leave it to the lurkers to read with discernment as to what has been said."
Because obviously you can't tell me what was said.
Again: WHO is the *Master Deceiver*?
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posted on
01/13/2006 5:31:06 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: vik
Could be. Btw, he's a she (justmythoughts).
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posted on
01/13/2006 5:59:42 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: vik
"Again: WHO is the *Master Deceiver*?"
My money would be on him referring to that most evil of all NaziCommunist evolutionists: PatrickHenry. Must be coming "The Dark Lord" "He Who Must Not Be Named" to Creationmists
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posted on
01/13/2006 6:09:17 AM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
("What is the sense in 'atin' those 'oom you are paid to kill?" - Kipling)
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