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Putting the NG on the border is a good idea, but it won't solve the problem. The MMP shut down crossings along the border for what - 30 miles? - in April. But it took a whole lot of people. Does that mean we don't put the Guard or other military on the border? No, it just means we don't rely on them alone.

Putting up a fence is a good idea, but it won't stop everyone. Does that mean we don't put up a fence? No, it means we couple the fence with increased manpower and effective electronic surveillance.

Folks, no one solution is the be-all end-all for controlling the border. And when we get wrapped up in trying to convince each other that one proposal is better (or worse) than another, we are engaged in a self-defeating exercise.

23 posted on 01/12/2006 2:22:34 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~)
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Until the employers of illegals are a major part of the enforcement and heavy fines and prison for repeat offenders they will keep trying to come.

If employers are targeted there won't be any jobs and they will go home or starve.

The BP should be split in half, half on the border and half going after employers.

Build the fence also, the whold 2000 miles wouldn't cost more than what the illegals cost California yearly.


26 posted on 01/12/2006 2:28:07 PM PST by dalereed
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You are right....even with a wall, it will need to be patrolled with lots of personnel.

It does need doing, however, and pronto.


28 posted on 01/12/2006 2:34:36 PM PST by TheLion
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To: HiJinx
Putting up a fence is a good idea, but it won't stop everyone. Does that mean we don't put up a fence? No, it means we couple the fence with increased manpower and effective electronic surveillance.

Couldn't agree more, putting up a fence is only part of the solution. More border patrols, interior enforcement including employer sanctions as well as cutting off all incentives to illegals in combination will be needed to put a stop to the flood.

51 posted on 01/12/2006 3:40:37 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: HiJinx

I agree (that it is self defeating to try to pursue and promote one idea over another)...the successful solution is a multi-solution approach, pursuing and developing all the solutions simultaneously: a border wall, military, punishment for employing illegal aliens, removing taxpayer funded supports/"rewards" for illegal aliens in the U.S., correcting the "anchor baby" misapplication of the 14th Amendment, deportations of illegal aliens, a huge invoice to Mexico for social services in the U.S. used already by Mexican citizens in the U.S. illegally...all of it.

And no Guest Worker programs, none, whatsoever, until AFTER these conditions are resolved. THEN assess whether or not the U.S. has to import unskilled labor and not employ Americans first.


93 posted on 01/13/2006 7:29:45 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


104 posted on 01/13/2006 12:08:35 PM PST by blackie
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