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Too few conversions (in Israel)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 1-11-2006 | Anon

Posted on 01/12/2006 11:59:44 AM PST by rcocean

Statistically speaking, the bulk of the million newcomers who emigrated largely from today's Russia and Ukraine, but also from assorted neighboring countries as well as Ethiopia, have been absorbed much more smoothly than even the rosiest forecasts had suggested back when they arrived here.

But one problem looms larger than all the rest and clouds this entire glorious chapter in Israeli history: conversion.

The idea behind the Law of Return, that anyone with a single Jewish grandparent - who therefore would have been Jewish enough for Hitler to murder in his gas chambers - will be offered citizenship in the Jewish state, was and remains a noble one. But it was not imagined that the proportion of new immigrants who qualified under the Law of Return and yet were not halachically Jewish would rise so high.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: conversion; israel; lawofreturn

1 posted on 01/12/2006 11:59:46 AM PST by rcocean
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2 posted on 01/12/2006 12:04:48 PM PST by conservatrice
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To: rcocean

http://chareidi.shemayisrael.com/archives5766/SCS66aconvert.htm

Vaad Cites Follow-Up Studies of Converts after Steep Rise

By Betzalel Kahn

The Conversion Department at the Prime Minister's Office issued an alarming press release boasting about 5765 "figures indicating a large rise in the number of converts."

Rabbi Chaim Druckman, who heads the Conversion Department, reported that one year after the Prime Minister appointed him to sign the so-called conversion certificates at least 5,800 such certificates were issued, including 5,360 in the first nine months of 2005, compared to 3,599 in all of 2004.

Vaad HaRabbonim LeInyonei Giyur, founded by HaRav Chaim Kreiswirth zt"l warned against Rabbi Druckman's appointment from the outset and against the transfer of responsibility for the conversion industry to the Prime Minister's Office based on fears the State would encourage boosting the number of "converts" who undergo a conveyor-belt conversion process at special botei din for conversion.

Chareidi dayonim and public figures expressed deep concerns over the rise in the number of conversion certificates issued to goyim who underwent an accelerate conversion process without a thorough inquiry to determine whether they really intend to keep Torah and mitzvos after the conversion, since according to rulings by the leading poskim the conversion is invalid, even bedi'eved, in the absence of a genuine acceptance of the yoke of mitzvos.

A spokesman for the Vaad HaRabbonim Haolami LeInyonei Giyur founded by HaRav Chaim Kreiswirth zt"l said in response, "Conversions is not a number game to show the prime minister. Rather it is a serious business that needs serious attention and careful processing.

"According to a recent investigation made by the Vaad, over 90 percent of the Israeli Special Conversion Court system converts never had a sincere intention to fully observe Torah and mitzvos after their conversion."

The spokesman said that the Vaad was in contact with one of the dayanim of the Special Conversion Courts and he openly admitted to them that the Special Conversion Court system never conducts follow-up investigations of those who converted through them.

The Vaad is in contact with botei din kevu'im vechashuvim that have conducted such follow-up studies and they benefited very much from the effort and adopted guidelines in the conversion process to address issues that arose.


3 posted on 01/12/2006 12:11:59 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: rcocean

That's what happens when a single word is used in several [sometimes overlapping, sometimes not] meanings. The genetic meaning "who therefore would have been Jewish enough for Hitler to murder in his gas chambers" is most emphatically different from the religious one: conversion in or apostasy out is impossible and meaningless in the former, but possible and valid in the latter. It would be better, and more clarity would be attained, if different words were used to denote these: say, Hebrew and Jewish.


4 posted on 01/12/2006 12:38:24 PM PST by GSlob
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it was not imagined that the proportion of new immigrants who qualified under the Law of Return and yet were not halachically Jewish would rise so high

Not imagined by whom? Probably the hordes of "not halachically Jewish" Germans and Eastern Europeans, desperate to escape Europe after years of horror had given way to garden variety misery with no light at the end of the tunnel, had no trouble imagining this.

5 posted on 01/12/2006 2:02:40 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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6 posted on 01/12/2006 2:03:06 PM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: rcocean
A friend of mine, who was raised in an Israeli kibbutz back in the 1930s, used to say he liked to visit Utah because it was the only time he could be a Gentile.
7 posted on 01/12/2006 2:39:29 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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