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At Least McCarthy Had A Point
Vanity ^ | 12 January 2006 | .cnI redruM

Posted on 01/12/2006 7:21:34 AM PST by .cnI redruM

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To: kpp_kpp
>>>>Kennedy (et al) has become the one actively pursuing the demise of The United States and sits in its own Senate.


A sobering point.
21 posted on 01/12/2006 8:19:51 AM PST by .cnI redruM (To Live in the past is to die in the Present - Bill Belichick)
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To: .cnI redruM
I agree completely. I wasn't offering that up as an excuse for their behavior, just an explanation as to why they are disgracing themselves even though they know they have no hope of derailing this nomination.

They're a bunch of dancing bears, performing for treats.

22 posted on 01/12/2006 8:31:55 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: .cnI redruM

No doubt it's the Scotch.


23 posted on 01/12/2006 8:40:35 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: .cnI redruM
Apparently, Senator Kennedy sat elsewhere as he poured over Judge Alito’s resume with the gimlet eye for any excuse to burn President Bush’s latest SCOTUS nominee at the stake.

Er .. ahh .. er .. ahh .. hic

24 posted on 01/12/2006 9:05:05 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: bassmaner
Pretty much...Now he's crying into his cold Scotch on the rocks.
25 posted on 01/12/2006 9:06:20 AM PST by .cnI redruM (To Live in the past is to die in the Present - Bill Belichick)
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To: .cnI redruM

Exactly. McCarthyism was defined as smearing a person's character. The left often confuses anti-communism with McCarthyism. Ol' Teddy is the penultimate McCarthyist. He blew his wad on Bork and that dog don't hunt no mo'.


26 posted on 01/12/2006 11:44:56 AM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: TradicalRC
Kennedy took a lot of people by surprise when he went after Robert Bork. The shock has worn off, it no longer works.
27 posted on 01/12/2006 11:59:49 AM PST by .cnI redruM (To Live in the past is to die in the Present - Bill Belichick)
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To: TChris
Bears repeating.

Senator McCarthy was right.


28 posted on 01/12/2006 12:15:56 PM PST by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: .cnI redruM
A house cleaning starts in Congress.. until that happens America is dirty.. All cleanup of corruption in any way is a waste.. America is currently filty.. rotten..

From the federal congress on down to all state congresses.. but the cleanup must start federally.. The love of money is root of all evil and the federal Congress has a lot of money.. and its tainting EVERYTHING.. EVERYTHING...

30 posted on 01/12/2006 12:34:38 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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A housecleaning in congress starts with a method of eliminating the gerrymander. Until elections can be made Bush v. Gore white knuckle affairs, incumbents are essentially shatterproof and bullet proof.
31 posted on 01/12/2006 12:47:41 PM PST by .cnI redruM (To Live in the past is to die in the Present - Bill Belichick)
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To: .cnI redruM
[ A housecleaning in congress starts with a method of eliminating the gerrymander. Until elections can be made Bush v. Gore white knuckle affairs, incumbents are essentially shatterproof and bullet proof. ]

Gerrymandering is not New..
Demos and Rinos will not allow it to stop.. both federally and statewide..
Only one option.. And even LESS are up to that..

Until THEN.. the thing that will not leave... WON'T LEAVE.. unless persuaded at/by gunpoint..

32 posted on 01/12/2006 12:55:46 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
The gerrymander fix would have to be a constitutional amendment. A complete grassroots uprising against our entrenched class. Not likely, but remotely possible. It would require an external crisis. Something that made us all worse enough off to care on a personal basis, rather than just a philosophical one.
33 posted on 01/12/2006 12:57:48 PM PST by .cnI redruM (To Live in the past is to die in the Present - Bill Belichick)
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I hate to break up the McCarthy lovefest but he essentiualy was a paranoid bully who died a drunken failure, a foolish choice for hero worship if there ever was one. Trying to reframe him, as Coulter did only plays to the caricature of a raving wingnut. American history offers many more examples of people who spoke out against communism effectively, Reagan would be one, McCarthy is not one.


34 posted on 01/12/2006 1:02:39 PM PST by planetpatrol
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To: .cnI redruM
[ Something that made us all worse enough off to care on a personal basis, rather than just a philosophical one. ]

You dodged my bullet.. don't blame you.. Revolutions can easily become mere riots.. more often than not..

35 posted on 01/12/2006 1:10:55 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: planetpatrol
I hate to break up the McCarthy lovefest but he essentiualy was a paranoid bully ...

Hate to rain on your liberal take on McCarthy, but what exactly defines him as paranoid?

36 posted on 01/12/2006 2:03:54 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: Milhous

The Venona Project vindicated MacCarthy, that's for sure.


37 posted on 01/12/2006 5:25:27 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fight corruption by choking government power and curbing government spending.)
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To: TradicalRC; Milhous

Here's a google link to the Venona project. Note that NSA and the CIA both have public summaries about it, at the top of the google hits. To understand McCarthy, one must understand Venona. We're in a brave new world now. McCarthy bashing is on borrowed time. FRegards....

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=venona&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images


38 posted on 01/12/2006 5:29:33 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fight corruption by choking government power and curbing government spending.)
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To: TradicalRC

What defined his as paranoid? Simply put he provided a public display of the mental illness. Let us not be so supportive of the noble cause that we champion a sick man. Its not a "liberal" view, he was a drunk. As someone who has dealt with alcoholic family members I know what their suspicious minds are capable of, its sad and dangerous. Moreover as a cheap political stunt it showed a disturbing lack of faith in the correctness of the American system. Our founding fathers built a mighty body politic, one that was more than capable of shaking off anyone selling communism. Just as we overcome an illness when we are strong so to did American overcome any red fifth columists. That my friends is what it comes down to, how much faith do you have in America, I for one believe our system is true and its goodness so clear that it will prevail against any rival, Mr.McCarthy lacked such a faith.


39 posted on 01/12/2006 7:08:38 PM PST by planetpatrol
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I would say not completely, but it certainly undermined the thesis that he invented the Red Menace out of whole cloth. He simply went too far in how he went about his work and often went after people who were not guilty.

It's a shame we don't spend more effort on counterintel today. Al-Quaida figured out that the WTC could be taken out somehow.
40 posted on 01/12/2006 7:20:27 PM PST by .cnI redruM (To Live in the past is to die in the Present - Bill Belichick)
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