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Public Schools Are Cheating the Children
RealClear Politics Commentary ^ | January 11, 2006 | John Stossel

Posted on 01/11/2006 4:56:37 AM PST by Puzzleman

Last week, Florida's supreme court ruled that public money can't be spent on private schools because the state constitution commands the funding of only "uniform . . . high-quality" schools. How absurd. As if government schools are uniformly high quality. Or even mostly decent.

Apparently competition, which made even the Postal Service improve, is unconstitutional when it comes to public education in Florida.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: belgium; competition; education; europe; nea; newjersey; nj; njea; school; stossel
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1 posted on 01/11/2006 4:56:38 AM PST by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman
Vandensavel's school offers extra sports programs and classes in hairdressing, car mechanics, cooking, and furniture building. She told us, "We have to work hard day after day. Otherwise you just [go] out of business."

What a thought ... working hard to provide a service the customer wants to pay for!

In the U.S., the worse schools do, the more money they get. Why are we surprised that we have increasing costs for declining results?

2 posted on 01/11/2006 5:21:28 AM PST by Tax-chick (D-minus-13.)
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To: Puzzleman

How many Freepers out there home school your kids?


3 posted on 01/11/2006 5:26:21 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D

My baby is due in a few weeks. My husband and I are taking care of her and homeschooling her. She will never set foot in a "daycare" center or a "government" school. If I have to read another article about a teacher having sex with a student I will puke.


4 posted on 01/11/2006 5:55:44 AM PST by Lenina
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To: Man50D; DaveLoneRanger; Tired of Taxes

Ping. We homeschool.


5 posted on 01/11/2006 6:00:33 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Puzzleman

Stossel says "Harvard economist Caroline Hoxby told me. 'If schools don't perform well, a parent would never be trapped in that school in the same way you could be trapped in the U.S.'"

I believe the teachers union trap the kids in public schools. The union doesn't want competition and doesn't want to be held accountable for actually teaching.

I watched a local access cable program a few months back. A grass roots movement of teachers from the district hired a consultant to speak about strategies for extracting more money from the State. The state education budget is tight as is the districts. I watched the whole program in amazement because I did not hear any ideas or strategies on how to reduce costs, not one.

If you are in the private sector and your budget is tight, the first thing you look at are costs and where you can reduce them.


6 posted on 01/11/2006 6:04:18 AM PST by Flifuss
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To: Puzzleman
Apparently competition, which made even the Postal Service improve, is unconstitutional when it comes to public education in Florida.

Of course it is. Public schools are a monopoly, of which you have no choice but to pay for. Otherwise they could never get away with such incompetence.

7 posted on 01/11/2006 6:06:46 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen

"Public Schools Are Cheating the Children"

Duh!


8 posted on 01/11/2006 6:14:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: Man50D

Lots and lots.


9 posted on 01/11/2006 6:16:53 AM PST by Tax-chick (D-minus-13.)
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To: Puzzleman

In California, 50% of the budget goes to public schools. THEY ARE A TOTAL FAILURE.

They have one principal and 6 assistant principals. Each one of those asst. principals makes 80 - 100,000.00 a year. Top heavy schools, Wasteful of resources. Janitors don't clean, they only drive around emptying trash cans the 'special needs' kids fill after lunch, and put the flag up.

Otherwise they sit around doing much about nothing...


10 posted on 01/11/2006 6:18:59 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Lenina

I was afraid that my kids would not get a complete education, because of my own short comings.

In the years I've been involved with the school system in my town, there has been one teacher, a polio victim, caught molesting female students, (he was head of the biology department), and I had him for study hall when I was 13 (1969).

A gay man who seemed to follow my kids from grammar school to the middle school, who in middle school brought his life partner into class to display alternative life styles. The students came home mostly laughing and saying how ridiculous they thought he was.

I have mixed feelings about the home schooling, but if you can do it, you should try. My sister is a credentialed teacher and homeschooled her son. The son is well balanced, intelligent, and has NO social skills problems I can see.

Good luck.


11 posted on 01/11/2006 6:24:16 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Puzzleman

We homeschool. My kids have never attended public school. They are ages 14, 12, 9 and 7. I think homeschoolers and private schoolers should get tax breaks for providing our children's education.


12 posted on 01/11/2006 6:32:44 AM PST by Rightwingmom
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To: Puzzleman

I'm wonder if the lawyer pleading this case wasn't worth his salt. I would think the uniform state standards that all schools private or public must meet would be proof of uniformity.


13 posted on 01/11/2006 6:34:04 AM PST by one more state
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To: Man50D

I homeschool"ed" my children, does that count:). They are grown adults now, married, working, raising their own children, in their own homes:).

They plan on homeschooling thier children. Their spouses have been completly won over to the idea, having been public schooled.

Becky


14 posted on 01/11/2006 6:37:57 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Never under estimate the power of stupid people in a large group:)
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To: Tax-chick
Did you see the B.C. Strip today? "Question: What is the difference between autocracy and democracy? Answer: In an autocracy only one person picks your pocket!

A hint about what is going on: The article in the Dallas Morning News about coaches salaries. Fact: high school coaches are NOT getting overpaid, not considering all the pressure they are under. Fact: NO WAY do athletic programs make money for the school. There is the little matter of stadiums and other buildings. BUT the public is willing to spend a ton of money on this public entertainment and the field of dreams that the stadiums represent.

But hidden in the article is the important fact that while coaches get paid about $80,000 a year on the average, superintendents get paid on the average $175,000 a year. That is more than a congressman makes and while the extra benefits are not as generous as those of congressman, they are not small. Probably 70% of these men are ex-coaches, and after years in the coaching rat-race, burnt out coaches have the chance to put on the superintendent's. Most Texas schools are run by these very intelligent, practical BUT--unfortunately-not well educated men. They remind me of the old "Brick-and-mortor men who used to run the Catholic Church. Good managers but poor theologians. There is an old saying: you can only teach what you know. No wonder that the only subject that is well-taught in Texas schools is football.
15 posted on 01/11/2006 6:39:25 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Puzzleman

....and the winner of the N.S. Sherlock Award goes to....John Stossel!!! Come on down !!

16 posted on 01/11/2006 6:43:01 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Those who seek to punish the Truth, are the ones most convicted.)
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To: Man50D

Rhode Island homeschoolers here.

We made the decision when our daughter was only 2 years old. The local school districts were applauding their 64% average for 4th grade level math, and 62% average in reading on their regional school Report Cards.

I simply cannot abide the public school's "Celebrate Mediocrity!" mantra.

Add to that the secular, anti-Christianity, pro-sex ed, pro-homosexual, liberal revisionist history curriculum they foist upon children, and it's a no-brainer that people should homeschool their kids.

If you're thinking of doing it, do it. Whatever it takes to afford it. Your kids are worth more than a 2nd car or family vacations to Disney World.


17 posted on 01/11/2006 6:47:47 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Hail Him who saved you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of All")
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To: Lenina

You and your husband are doing the right thing - don't let anyone try and convince you otherwise!

Day Care warehouses and public schools are liberal, socialist indoctrination centers bent on imposing their agenda.

I was convinced we had done the right thing when my 6 year old nephew (who is public-schooled) told me that "sometimes it's ok for a boy to dress like a girl, and a girl to dress like a boy". Said they talked about it in class. I wanted to cry.


18 posted on 01/11/2006 6:50:27 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Hail Him who saved you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of All")
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To: RobbyS

Interesting points. Superintendents make a fortune in this area, too, although they seem to have made their careers in administration, rather than football.

In some ways, it might be better to have an ex-football coach run the district than a "professional educator." You've got to have some sense to be a successful football coach!


19 posted on 01/11/2006 6:50:35 AM PST by Tax-chick (D-minus-13.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes, but they let the "educationists" run the academic side of the school. They actually believe that an Ed.D after a person's name means that the person knows something.


20 posted on 01/11/2006 6:57:16 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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