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NSA WhistleBlower (BLOWHARD)
ABC News / Drudge Report ^ | 01/09/2006 | NSA

Posted on 01/11/2006 3:49:25 AM PST by IrishMike

"NSA whistleblower alleges illegal spying" (....BARF ALERT)

Interview with Mr Russell Tice 20 year NSA employee who admits to being New York Slime source. ALSO (PDF) of letter from NSA to Mr Tice ..dated 01/09/2006


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; mrtraitortice; nsa; russelltice; spying; traitors

1 posted on 01/11/2006 3:49:26 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Does this mean Rockefeller is off the hook?


2 posted on 01/11/2006 3:51:09 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: IrishMike

He's not a whistleblower. There are defined processes for that, that do not require leaking classified information into the public eye.

No, this guy is a traitorous leaker.


3 posted on 01/11/2006 3:53:15 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: IrishMike

Has he admited it under oath?


4 posted on 01/11/2006 3:53:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: IrishMike
This article is complete and umitigated bull$#!%. They specifically leave out the fact that Russ Tice already admitted he never part of this 'NSA wiretapping program'. The abuses he's talking about are his false espionage accusations against fellow analysts.
5 posted on 01/11/2006 3:59:17 AM PST by Steel Wolf (If the Founders had wanted the President to be spying on our phone calls, they would have said so!)
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To: IrishMike
This fat attention seeking wannabe's 'secret info' could be read about in Bamford's book on the NSA 'Puzzle Palace', written 20 years ago. Most likely this guy worked at the NSA cafeteria.
6 posted on 01/11/2006 4:01:00 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
Worked at the 'cafeteria' ...
looking at the picture AGAIN,....definate possibility
7 posted on 01/11/2006 4:04:13 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
Well, until Tice says it under oath, and a Timesman confirms it, again under oath, I'm not taking anything Tice says as gospel. Tice could very well be a cover for somebody else. If Tice was a source, was he the paper's only source for this story? Inquiring minds want to know :)
8 posted on 01/11/2006 4:05:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Odd, he was released from the NSA in May, and yet he comes out as a whistleblower on this. Coincidence?


9 posted on 01/11/2006 4:22:06 AM PST by benjamin032
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To: IrishMike
"(after 911)"The mentality was we need to get these guys, and we're going to do whatever it takes to get them," he said. "

And yet I don't have a single problem with this statement whatsoever.
ABC jumped on this guys statement and "confessions" early in my opinion, I think he will be debunked shortly by the NSA as a guy with a score to settle with the Bush administration.

10 posted on 01/11/2006 4:30:37 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Abathar

To get fired from the fed, you have to really screw up badly, repeatedly and in full view.


11 posted on 01/11/2006 4:49:52 AM PST by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: IrishMike

The interesting comment out of last night's ABC interview was when he said "potentially" could be used to listen to millions of Americans. He did not say that NSA was listening to non-terrorist linked American citizens, but the system has the potential to do it. He also described the data mining and didn't seem to see that it was a way to find folks wanting to harm the US rather that it might lead to finding out what uncle abner and aunt minnie were going to do on their next vacation.

If this guy has a psychological problem, it is that he is denying that there is any threat to the United States and that his co-workers will not follow the rules in gathering intelligence against terrorists and not unrelated citizens.


12 posted on 01/11/2006 4:52:31 AM PST by GreyFriar ((3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead))
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To: saganite
"Tice told ABC News he was one of Times DOZEN anonymous sources"
(DOZEN Anonymous sources.... colaboration !!!!!!)
13 posted on 01/11/2006 4:55:46 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

I'm still for hanging Pelosi (except she's already dead).


14 posted on 01/11/2006 5:43:42 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: IrishMike

There is no indication that he is the person who leaked the information. He said he was one of a dozen sources, and he might have simply told the times that he thought the NSA was breaking the law, without telling them WHAT they were doing or details about the program.

It seems more likely that this guy saw that the democrat leadership was backing this leak, and since he lost his job last year, realised that he might be able to make some good money by coming forward as a "whistleblower".

After all, he would surely say to himself, how can he get in trouble for talking about it now that elected members of our government are calling him a hero?

BTW, I not only have no doubt, but I also think it good, that the NSA probably has millions of americans on tape somewhere.

You can't apriori filter what you are going to record, or you will miss what you need to hear. My guess is that most of the tapes (more likely electronic storage) are simply wiped out and overwritten, like a security camera.

How many democrat leaders are protesting how the govermnent has, briefly at least, film of almost every american, surriptitiously captured, without their knowledge, right here in the USA, with no warrant or any reason to believe any of those people are committing any criminal acts?

I refer of course to red light cameras, airport security cameras, traffic cameras, street cameras, cameras installed at federal buildings and museums, etc.

And when there is a report of a crime, those tapes are turned over to law enforcement, which looks at everything EVERYBODY did on those tapes. And if they see signs of a crime YOU might have committed, I believe they will come and arrest you, even if that wasn't the crime they were trying to catch on tape.


15 posted on 01/11/2006 5:45:40 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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