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Tax Reform? Dream On
Kiplinger.com ^ | January 2006 | Knight Kiplinger

Posted on 01/10/2006 5:26:10 PM PST by Eaglewatcher

Let's face it: When it comes to true income-tax reform, Congress still prefers the devil it knows.

There are a lot of tasks I'd rather do myself than pay someone to do for me, but preparing my tax return isn't one of them. I'm among the estimated 60% of taxpayers who use a professional. It's not that the return my wife and I file is complex -- no exotic tax shelters, rental property or day trading. But given that the IRS's own hotline provides incorrect information about half the time, I'll leave the task to my savvy CPA.

Like millions of Americans, I yearn for genuine tax simplification, and I'm not fussy about what form it takes. Any of the radical reform plans would be better than our present Rube Goldberg contraption -- some 60,000 pages of arcane code, regulations and IRS rulings that distort our economy, penalize saving and unfairly reward special interests.

1040 on a postcard How about one low-rate tax on all income, with absolutely no deductions? No write-offs for mortgage interest, charitable donations, state and local taxes, or anything else. Yes, I could live with a flat tax, and we really could file our return on a postcard.

Or how about a national sales tax, levied only on consumption, rather than on earnings and investment income? I like this concept even better. At some rate to be determined (probably pretty hefty), it could replace all federal taxes on income, asset gains and estates. It could even replace the regressive payroll taxes that fund social security and medicare -- taxes that, for most low- and middle-income earners, exceed their income-tax bill.

A federal retail sales tax would be easier to administer than a value-added tax, which is levied at all stages in the production-and-distribution chain, because a sales tax could be collected by the states and forwarded to Washington. Poor people would get all their sales taxes rebated. Big-spending rich people would pay a bundle in sales tax, and super-savers at all income levels would pay relatively little. America's woefully low savings rate would soar, lessening U.S. dependence on foreign capital. (For more about a national sales tax, see www.fairtax.org.)

Supporters of tax simplification assure us that their plans would be "revenue neutral" -- that is, they'd generate the same amount of money as the present tax code.

But I wouldn't mind paying even a somewhat higher federal tax bill than I do now in exchange for true simplification. I would feel better knowing that, with the demise of countless tax breaks for favored individuals and industries, everyone would be paying his or her fair share.

Realistically, what are the odds that these plans will be enacted? Sadly, slim to none.

There were hopes that President Bush's bipartisan Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform might endorse a truly bold plan. Instead, the panel proposed reducing the number of tax brackets, lowering the top marginal rate to 30% or 33% from 35%, ceasing the taxation of dividends, and trimming the top rate on capital gains (but only on stocks) from 15% to about 8%. Abolition of the hated alternative minimum tax would be funded by trimming the mortgage-interest deduction, limiting the exclusion for employer-paid health insurance, and ending the deduction for state and local taxes.

It's not a bad plan, but Congress probably won't go along with even these modest reforms, given the powerful lobbies that defend every current deduction.

Don't hold your breath True tax simplification will remain an elusive dream. Congress will say it's too risky to gamble on a flat tax or national sales tax, given the unknown effects they might have on an economy that is addicted to the countless stimuli in the present tax code.

Let's face it: When it comes to true income-tax reform, Congress still prefers the devil it knows to an unpredictable devil it dares not imagine.

Columnist Knight Kiplinger is editor in chief of Kiplinger's Personal Finance and of The Kiplinger Letter and Kiplinger.com.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: fair; fairtax; taxeconomy
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Let's keep the pot boiling!
1 posted on 01/10/2006 5:26:12 PM PST by Eaglewatcher
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To: ancient_geezer; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; PhilWill; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; ...

Fair Tax ping!


2 posted on 01/10/2006 5:30:26 PM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D
But the blessing of tax reform would put tens of thousands of hard working Americans out of a job.

We cann'ot be havin' nun o'that donn'cha know...

"H&R Bankrupt... music to my ears..."

3 posted on 01/10/2006 5:35:08 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: xcamel

when a door closes, another one opens.

Im sure accountants will still be needed. Last time I knew a company with 25,000 employees still has trouble keeping there books.

Death to H&R Blockhead!


4 posted on 01/10/2006 5:40:21 PM PST by spikeytx86
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To: spikeytx86

And Jackson Spewitt?


5 posted on 01/10/2006 5:42:23 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: Eaglewatcher

I have been living and working and praying for the day that the income tax would go away since I was a young man. No one would listen to me, no one cared, but I knew I wasn't alone, Now, finallly, we are getting people to talk about it and maybe, before I die, I will see the end of it but you had better hurry!:)


6 posted on 01/10/2006 5:43:14 PM PST by calex59
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To: Eaglewatcher

He's right. There aren't enough politicians with a set to make true tax reform happen. I've given up on the lot of 'em.


7 posted on 01/10/2006 5:43:56 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: xcamel

......and you totally ignore the reasons those "tens of thousands of Americans" have jobs, or what those jobs cost the rest of us.

Remind me never to hire you.


8 posted on 01/10/2006 5:45:09 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: calex59
But.. the "fair tax" is by no means fair...

A flat 10/5/2 is.

It would however force the fed/state/local to live entirely within it's means.

No deductions, no welfare, no SS, no handouts, no sales tax, no property tax, no school tax.

Take the piglets away from the sow, she will dry up.

9 posted on 01/10/2006 5:49:20 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: RightOnline
He's right. There aren't enough politicians with a set to make true tax reform happen. I've given up on the lot of 'em.

The politicians are not the ones who will make a difference. Pushing the Fair Tax is a grassroots movement that starts and ends with the people. Women's suffrage was a grassroots movement that resulted in the 19th Amendment (Women's right to vote). They faced as much if not more skepticism than the Fair Tax.
10 posted on 01/10/2006 5:50:56 PM PST by Man50D
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To: RightOnline
you better go back and re-read my post a couple more times...

Think poetic justice...

11 posted on 01/10/2006 5:51:24 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: xcamel
But.. the "fair tax" is by no means fair...

What is your reasoning for this statement?
12 posted on 01/10/2006 5:52:34 PM PST by Man50D
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To: Eaglewatcher; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:


13 posted on 01/10/2006 5:53:24 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Eaglewatcher

The accountants and tax lawyers own the pols(lawmaking via bribery). There will be no tax reform.


14 posted on 01/10/2006 5:55:35 PM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: Man50D
Because all the iterations of "fair tax" like GST and VAT are based on the same intellectual lie as "Restricting the growth of piggy program entitlement xxx is a CUT!!! CUT I tell you!! CUTS!!!"
15 posted on 01/10/2006 5:56:59 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: RightOnline

There aren't enough people who are willing to stand on their representatives desks to make it happen. We will have to drag them to this....kicking and screaming. And if they don't see things our way....a few pudgy pink posteriors in the Potomac ought to gently 'persuade' the rest of them.


16 posted on 01/10/2006 5:58:27 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: xcamel

I prefer any type of tax over an income tax of any kind, BUT I would take a true flat tax along with an amendment of the constitution that it could never be raised or changed to the type of icome tax we have now, this would be an improvement but not ideal. Ideal would be not income tax at all, we lived until the early part of the 20th century before we brought in an income tax, income taxes were branded as evil by several of the founding fathers and with good reason. Property taxes should be the next to feel the cut of the tax knife!


17 posted on 01/10/2006 6:04:22 PM PST by calex59
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To: xcamel
I want spending cuts too. But how to achieve it? Simply stating your desire does not make it so.

For decades, so many have been watching gov't spending increase without bound...even though so many have been clamouring for it to stop and reverse itself. Why is this so?

Have you considered the idea that the method of collection has everything to do with it?

While you reject the nrst because it does not include spending cuts, you do not recognize the effect it would have on gov't spending. Would downward pressure be put on gov't spending if we merely eliminated withholding and had taxpayers pay in cash monthly like our other bills? Of course it would. If merely changing the method of collection can affect gov't spending, why not investigate changing the method of collection???

18 posted on 01/10/2006 6:05:53 PM PST by Principled
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To: I Drive Too Fast

ping for later read


19 posted on 01/10/2006 6:06:52 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Eaglewatcher
In the old system, too many people have too many of the loopholes figured out. Any change which changes a deduction or credit elicites a political hellstorm from the affected group, e.g., elimination of home mortgage interest and realtors. And under the old system which spiderwebs its way into almost every aspect of American life, there are a LOT of affected groups. Each year I despise having to face two days or more on the loathsome 1040 and its minions of addenda but I am not hopeful for any change soon.

Muleteam1

20 posted on 01/10/2006 6:08:19 PM PST by Muleteam1
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