Posted on 01/10/2006 10:15:10 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
"Any resemblance to the Hitler stereotype is superficial: they are not in the same league with Nazi Germany."
Nazi Germany: Used propoganda to incite violence against the Jews. Then slaughtered 6 million civilians.
Republic of Iran: Uses propoganda to incite violence against the Jews. FILL IN THE BLANKS
Fallacy? You mean like the fallacy of assertion?
Superficial. Superficialissimus. Nazi Germany started off as one of the most advanced and powerful countries on earth, way ahead of most in science, math, education, industry. Iran is not even on that list and polemicism does not put it there.
Fallacious argument refers to form rather than content.
"'Any resemblance to the Hitler stereotype is superficial: they are not in the same league with Nazi Germany.'
Nazi Germany: Used propoganda to incite violence against the Jews. Then slaughtered 6 million civilians.
Republic of Iran: Uses propoganda to incite violence against the Jews. FILL IN THE BLANKS..." thank- you, beat me to the puch of that one!
Nice try.
"Nazi Germany started off as one of the most advanced and powerful countries on earth, way ahead of most in science, math, education, industry. Iran is not even on that list and polemicism does not put it there."
Iran's ideology is to blame the earth's problems on the Jews and the solution offered is eradication of that race. Technology that does the killing is irrelevant. The idea gains followers which causes innocent and disgusting death.
"If we move hastily, the peoples of western Europe and the rest of the world will continute to defame us behind our backs and deny that they are doing so to our faces."
We may want to prepare economically based on the fact that Iran's oil won't be on the market for a few months if not years. However, as soon as Iran has a fully functioning bomb, they will use it on Israel.
Thank you for sharing your feelings. Please stop confusing your feelings with facts. Where did Nazi ideology preach that their god would reward them in the afterlife for killing off as many infidels as possible? Again, you are assuming rationality with ZERO consideration of the religious influence. It is an amazingly arrogant assumption. Because RightWhale feels this way everyone in the world must feel this way. Oh really? Explain homicide bombers and people flying jet liners into building full of unarmed, undefeded civilians?
Great you have feelings RW, please do not assume because YOU feel something it is a fact.
Be good little Jews and just go into the showers otherwise the Guards will get mad at you.
Yeah this strategy of meekly surrendering to evil because we we do not want to make them MAD worked really well in the 1940s for the Jews did it not.
Iran is recruiting and sending Homicide bombers into Iraq. Iran is all ready at war with US. Pity so many Americans think they can just hide their heads under their blankets and wait for someone else to slay this monster for them.
Fallacious argument to assume your feelings are facts.
Straw man argument. The one who stated equating Nazi Germany to Iran was you.
Typical pseudo intellectual Leftist tactic. Make up a fraudulent analysis and demand everyone debate your incorrect assumptions and feelings. Nice try but your personal feelings on what Iran would do are irrelevant. Your assumption of shared rationality is unproven and unprovable. You lose.
The US and Europeans at least are coordinating this to some extent.
The underlying idea is that after the Europeans fail with their negotiations (Which they will when dealing with Iran), they can hardly fall into our backs as some did with Iraq. It's a process where they are ultimately brought on our side politically and forced to stand with us. The political powers in Europe like France and Germany are then basically publicly admitting political failure with negotiations (An obvious outcome with Iran) and have to show color. Later the same people can hardly back peddle. This is a political Vetting process, not a real solution.
Anyone with half a brain knows Iran has no intentions to conform. They would like to cut the throats of half those European infidels that they are talking with. Negotiations are nothing more than a stalling tool. An Arab or Persian never negotiates like a Westerner. As with Muqtar Al Sadr, Arafat, negotiations are hardly sincere but make it hard for the opponent to take military action. They know this.
The US knows the Europeans will fail. Iran knows they will fail but tries to buy time or even gain acceptance of a nuclear Iran. The US knows these negotiations will fail and pushed the EU to the forefront of this issue. If you want to shoot your mouth off, show us what you can do! While we will still carry the brunt of the costs in shear economic and blood toll with a military engagement with Iran, the provincial thinking Eurocrat may feel less inclined to fall into their allies back and beat political capital out of issues like Iran or Iraq earlier, which was literally the case with Schroeder/Chirac.
At some point the Germans/Brits/French will say “Negotiations have failed" – meaning that peaceful methods have been exhausted. At that point it becomes hard for the German SPD or some other leader to change course and play the "Oil Bush Cowboy hegemony imperialism" card.
Red6
When Iranian scholars lead the world, and when Iranian heavy industry leads the world, also Iranian culture, science, technology, banking, then they would have the kind of power Germany had. Possession of a few nukes is not the ticket to world power status.
Germany was one of the advanced industrial nations at the time. Iran is not. That is fact. Somebody is arguing from feelings, that's a fact.
That is appeal to the people. Fallacious form. Propagandistic, and not subtle.
That is both incorrect in content and a fallacious form of argument.
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