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The Oldest Crime (Legalizied prostitution has nothing to do with Conservative Politics)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | January 9, 2006 | COLETTE DE TROY and MARY MCPHAIL

Posted on 01/10/2006 8:25:43 AM PST by presidio9

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To: presidio9

How many of these sex slaves end up in internet porn?


41 posted on 01/10/2006 10:54:23 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: dmz
Let me get this straight: You were asking me for my opinion when you redundantly asked who the victim was?

Nope, doesn't pass my bs-detector.

You'll feel better when you stop lying.

42 posted on 01/10/2006 10:55:50 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: presidio9
Was that before or after he stepped-up the war on drugs?

Before. Around 1979 or so. The owner of this web site calls libertarians "our good friends" and allows the small-l libertarian Republican Liberty Caucus to host their forum here on Free Republic.

43 posted on 01/10/2006 10:56:59 AM PST by jmc813 (People who use the term "liberaltarian" are gay)
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To: presidio9

Before.

Here's the quote from Mr Reagan, from Reason Magazine's July 1975 issue.

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2004/06/ronald_reagan_t.html

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."


44 posted on 01/10/2006 10:57:29 AM PST by dmz
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To: presidio9

I submit your bs-detector needs maintenance. You don't care much for being challenged, do you?


45 posted on 01/10/2006 11:04:36 AM PST by dmz
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To: jmc813
Before. Around 1979 or so. The owner of this web site calls libertarians "our good friends" and allows the small-l libertarian Republican Liberty Caucus to host their forum here on Free Republic.

Wouldn't be the only occasion when Reagan took a while to figure things out correctly. Remember, he was a democrat as a young man and he signed a pro-abortion bill into law as a Republican governor of California. For the purposes of this discussion (how libertarian philosphy fits into conservative politics) President Reagan was entire opposed to your cause.

And Jim Robinson created a website. That's all. He has no claim to correct political understanding. Especially when it comes to conservatism.

46 posted on 01/10/2006 11:05:53 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: dmz

I am not going to have the same argument with two different people. See my response to the original poster. The jist of it was Reagan himself realized that he was wrong about a lot of things before he got them right. President Reagan was unsympathic to libertarian stupidity.


47 posted on 01/10/2006 11:07:48 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: dmz
You don't care much for being challenged, do you?

Couln't tell you. I'll let you know when it happens.

48 posted on 01/10/2006 11:08:37 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: presidio9

Other than the supposed 'Moral Decay(tm)' what problems have come about in place like Nevada where it has been legalized? Seems to me that if it's controlled & regulated it would be safer than being done 'underground' like it is now.


49 posted on 01/10/2006 11:10:46 AM PST by BritExPatInFla
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To: BritExPatInFla

The Nevada example is absurd for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is the fact that it obviously has not eliminated the problems with vice and use of law enforecment resources that libertarians are so worried about. From what I understand, despite the presence of regulated legal whorehouses outside the cities, a few prostitutes remain in Vegas.


50 posted on 01/10/2006 11:14:58 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: Herr Grossenpimmel
Dirty filthy disease spreading WHORES

Most prostitutes have to be registered and checked monthly for STDs and HIV

They should be rounded up and FLOGGED

Should we flog all adults committing consensual acts among them?

As should the depraved perverted VERMIN who pay them for SEX

None of your business what adult men do with their time and money

51 posted on 01/10/2006 11:15:55 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: presidio9
President Reagan was entire opposed to your cause.

My "cause" is limited government. While not perfectly agreeing with me in every way, he pretty much went down this path.

And Jim Robinson created a website. That's all. He has no claim to correct political understanding. Especially when it comes to conservatism.

You made a comment earlier in the thread to the effect of "libertarianism should not be preached on a conservative message board". I'm simply pointing out that the very owner of this conservative message board, as well as the majority of freepers believe that libertarianism and conservatism can work hand in hand together.

52 posted on 01/10/2006 11:17:06 AM PST by jmc813 (People who use the term "liberaltarian" are gay)
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To: Cat loving Texan
It should be legalized and regulated. Vice squads should be dealing with real crime.

Yes, it should. I'm all for street-walking prostitution to be banned. As long as prostitutes advertise in alternative newspapers, the deeds are done discreetly and there's no children involved, what's the big deal?

53 posted on 01/10/2006 11:18:05 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Yeah, in fact the other day I read where Ozzie Osborne said the use of pot led his son Jack to be a user of harder more addictive drugs.

Consider the source - Ozzy himself snorted a line of red ants and lapped up Dee Snyder's urine.

54 posted on 01/10/2006 11:19:29 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Lady Heron
Libertarians are truly disgusting.

Not nearly as disgusting as bible-thumping busybodies who scream that everyone else is going to Hell if they so much as glance at the lingerie section of the sales ads.

55 posted on 01/10/2006 11:23:03 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: jmc813
My "cause" is limited government. While not perfectly agreeing with me in every way, he pretty much went down this path.

You're still shooting yourself in the foot when you use employ Reagan here. He is not on your side.

You made a comment earlier in the thread to the effect of "libertarianism should not be preached on a conservative message board". I'm simply pointing out that the very owner of this conservative message board, as well as the majority of freepers believe that libertarianism and conservatism can work hand in hand together.

I made no such comment. You are confused. Libertarian votes can probably help my candidate win, but even Saint Jim would agree that there is no hand-in-hand when libertarians are directly opposed to conservative policy.

The libertarian policy supports gay marriage (no crime, no victim, not constitutionally covered). Think Jimbo is ready to embrace it?

56 posted on 01/10/2006 11:24:46 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: presidio9; jmc813
jmc813 wrote:

The owner of this web site calls libertarians "our good friends" and allows the small-l libertarian Republican Liberty Caucus to host their forum here on Free Republic.

Jim Robinson created a website. That's all.

He has no claim to correct political understanding.
Especially when it comes to conservatism.

What's your claim to correct our political understanding of conservatism?
The fact that you hate libertarians?

Or perhaps its you that you hate a perfectly Constitutional activity, [see Nevada law] -- granted that its practice can be severely regulated, - as it is in most other States.

The fact is that your misunderstanding of Constitutional conservatism is amusingly evident.
For shame..

57 posted on 01/10/2006 11:24:53 AM PST by don asmussen
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To: don asmussen

The fact that I hate libertarism (not all libertarians themselves) is beside the point. The poster brought up two individuals as examples. I merely pointed out that they are both wrong. Reagan later so much as admitted that he was. Jim is just a dumb example.


58 posted on 01/10/2006 11:27:47 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: Herr Grossenpimmel
Where's your tolerance??? Being a good Euro-peeon I'd have thunk that you would have embraced someones line of employment "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone". /sarcasm
59 posted on 01/10/2006 11:35:27 AM PST by glaseatr (Proud Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep A. 2/5 Cav died Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Not nearly as disgusting as bible-thumping busybodies who scream that everyone else is going to Hell if they so much as glance at the lingerie section of the sales ads.

Right that is exactly what they do. sarc

60 posted on 01/10/2006 11:35:46 AM PST by Lady Heron
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