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To: kajingawd

except maybe the sonar systems of the 688 attac sub class, the 120mm cannon of the m1, optics for missiles, carbon fiber compounds, high tec ceramics, the heckler and koch MP5, leupold optics for sniper rifles, etc but who needs this martial crap anyhow.

chrysler beeing the only 'US American' car maker to plan to expand capacities - since it's german led it works out....

there's billions of examples and if the links are cut the US and certainly to a higher degree the EU economy wouldn't work - but hey - you US guys could do more trade with china - I bet they are kinda more friendly (always smiling).

yeah right I bet you would be better of without these high tec imports and the 10% of the capital coming into your country from muslim countries.

I am not saying we Eu folks would be better of without close relationshsips to the US - noone over here says so.

What I read - espacially in these threads, is that you folks don't care about it much plus you don't like the united nations as such - russia isn't cool either - china is a threat and if you pray to allah you're certainly an enemy...

But there sure is a lot of anti americanism in europe...


37 posted on 01/10/2006 12:55:47 PM PST by bowline (Is the EU better of without the US and vv ?)
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To: bowline
you should cool your jets, too.

having seen anti-americanism as well as anti-europeism (which is hardly a word). I

There's overlap on moral, cultural, economical and security related topics in our societies. To turn these overlaps into a deeper transatlantic partnership is, what will keep our societies prosper - we both win.

Plus these things are quite more exciting to be talked about - because they might change something to our benefit. Things like how we can get rid of this monkey in Iran and how we could open our European minds to a little more self responsibility in a free economy instead of raising the states share of economic influence all the time.

Or maybe even how we can get rid of the economic dependency on oil as a fuel.

If we decide to focus on the things we cannot bring together we will loose - and I will be bored to death.
43 posted on 01/16/2006 4:48:50 AM PST by globalheater (There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare - Sun Tzu)
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To: bowline
I am not saying we Eu folks would be better of without close relationshsips to the US - noone over here says so.

Of course not!

You have to keep some sort of relationship so that the U.S. will be prepared to haul your sorry butts out of the fire the next time your arrogant cynicism creates a worldwide monster.

44 posted on 01/16/2006 5:09:48 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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