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Report: MS-13 gang hired to murder Border Patrol
dailybulletin.com ^ | 1/10/2006 | Sara A. Carter and Mason Stockstill

Posted on 01/10/2006 6:18:50 AM PST by Boston Blackie

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To: sheik yerbouty

They already are according to the Patriot Act.


41 posted on 01/10/2006 8:57:40 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: starfish923
foreign wives from the military

These ladies don't belong in your negative list of resident aliens here in the US.

42 posted on 01/10/2006 8:58:36 AM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~)
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To: MineralMan
I propose that all illegals be FORCIBLY REMOVED from this country. Those that refuse to leave ... shoot 'em.

Why do you find that so disturbing? Do you endorse an open borders policy? Do you have any respect for law? Illegals are BREAKING THE LAW. If the federal government won't defend the border, I say citizens must defend the border.

I don't want to learn Spanish. I don't want to have the Star Spangled Banner played by a marachi band. President Bush already signed a bill to give over $ 1B to southwestern states to help keep hospitals open and provide social services - all caused by illegals. Why should my taxes go to support illegals hospitalization, welfare, etc.?

43 posted on 01/10/2006 9:18:10 AM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: starfish923

Bad mouthing the choice of wives made by American servicemen is arguably a less than wise decision. As for those who marry foreign women, a friend of mine who is smart enough to have been given a settlement by Las Vegas casinos to not play at their tables, decided to marry a Russian young woman.

Perhaps you might want to put the bong down?


44 posted on 01/10/2006 9:25:05 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Calpernia

This would be something really stupid for MS-13 to do. When they start killing the BP almost all other LEO will be hunting them down all over the country. Then again, I doubt that these criminals are very smart.


45 posted on 01/10/2006 9:36:24 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Americanexpat

>>>Then again, I doubt that these criminals are very smart.

Bump


46 posted on 01/10/2006 9:38:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
" The FBI and National Guard should do a nationwide sweep, and deport all MS 13 as terrorists."

Deport to hell, or the problem won't go away.

47 posted on 01/10/2006 9:53:08 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: hillary's_fat_a**

"I propose that all illegals be FORCIBLY REMOVED from this country. Those that refuse to leave ... shoot 'em. "




Being in this country is a misdemeanor. Yes, the illegals should all be deported. Still, we do not shoot people for misdemeanors. The death penalty is reserved for people who commit murder, under special circumstances in most states, and after a trial.

Your recommendation to shoot people just for being illegal aliens is abhorrent to me.

Deport them? Absolutely. Kill them? I don't think so.


48 posted on 01/10/2006 10:01:02 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Deport them? Absolutely. Kill them? I don't think so.

What do you recommend we do with illegals who refuse to identify themselves as illegal? What do you recommend we do with illegals who refuse to leave the US?

You already know what my recommendation is. I'm waiting to hear your recommendation.

49 posted on 01/10/2006 10:13:47 AM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: hillary's_fat_a**

"What do you recommend we do with illegals who refuse to identify themselves as illegal? What do you recommend we do with illegals who refuse to leave the US? "

Huh? What do you mean by "refuse to identify themselves as illegals?" I was not aware that police could just come up to folks on the street and demand proof of citizenship. Are they supposed to wear armbands with a big "I" or something?

Your second question makes even less sense. When we catch an illegal, it's not a matter of refusing to leave. We make them leave, or at least that's the idea.

So, how do you identify all the illegals in the country? Are they swarthy? Do they speak English badly? Are all swarthy people who speak English badly illegals? No? So, what do you suggest. Highway checkpoints on every highway?

What about all the illegal immigrants from European countries? There are lots and lots of them. How do you propose to find them? They aren't swarthy.

In any case, we do not have the death penalty for illegally entering this country. It's extremely unlikely that will ever change. We certainly don't have a "shoot on sight" law here.

You're way off base.


50 posted on 01/10/2006 10:20:56 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
You're way off base.

No, I'm not off base at all! The number of illegals in this country is estimated to be between 12-15 million. Here's what I'd do:

1. Everybody must get a national ID card by a certain date - no exceptions. Visitors are issued a national visitors pass.

2. After everybody has a certified national ID, the government orders all illegals to leave within 90-days without penalty. Illegals can sell their property, homes, etc. during this period.

3. After this 90-day period, the federal government offers a bounty to have citizens turn in illegals. If it is determined that turned-in people are illegal, they are deported and their property in the US is confiscated.

4. Any individual who refuses a properly obtained deportation can be shot.

5. Any individual who falsifies or obtains a false national ID card can be shot.

This is the BIGGEST THREAT to the future of the US regarding our language, culture, economic well-being, and standing among the nations. I intend to keep the US on top. I do not intend to slip to 3rd-world nation status. Ship 'em out or shoot 'em - it's OK with me!

51 posted on 01/10/2006 11:38:49 AM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: azhenfud

"We put panties on the heads of terrorists."

A splendid idea!


52 posted on 01/10/2006 1:58:53 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: Redleg Duke

I would shoot them all myself, Redleg. The problem is our government has no balls


53 posted on 01/10/2006 2:04:38 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: jonascord
It would appear, however that were MS-13 to actually start sniping the Border Patrol, the reaction might be, uh, unexpected and MASSIVE, and all out of proportion to the crime, depending on one's point of view.

It's been an American tradition that killing federal law enforcement agents was ,,, unhealthy

54 posted on 01/10/2006 2:08:35 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: Boston Blackie
"Unidentified Mexican alien smugglers Mexican government officials are angry about the increased security along the U.S./Mexico border and have agreed that the best way to deal with U.S. Border Patrol agents is to hire a group of contract killers,"
55 posted on 01/10/2006 2:14:09 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yup. Deportation isn't the answer to the MS-13 problem, lead in the head is.


56 posted on 01/10/2006 2:17:37 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

"Unidentified Mexican alien smugglers (Mexican government officials)

You and I both know the smugglers will not open fire, as it will kill their future profits. It is what you said; a few Mexican govt. officials who are pissed off at the USA.
And if and when it happens, Bush will pretend the killers are "alien smugglers"


57 posted on 01/10/2006 2:47:11 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: Boston Blackie

ping


58 posted on 01/10/2006 5:09:06 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady
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To: HiJinx

States are going to have to put the squeeze on the Feds. Glad to see this!


59 posted on 01/10/2006 5:14:21 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion

ping


60 posted on 01/10/2006 5:17:09 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady
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