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Can This Black Box See Into the Future?
Red Orbit ^ | January 10, 2006

Posted on 01/10/2006 2:01:51 AM PST by RWR8189

DEEP in the basement of a dusty university library in Edinburgh lies a small black box, roughly the size of two cigarette packets side by side, that churns out random numbers in an endless stream.

At first glance it is an unremarkable piece of equipment. Encased in metal, it contains at its heart a microchip no more complex than the ones found in modern pocket calculators.

But, according to a growing band of top scientists, this box has quite extraordinary powers. It is, they claim, the 'eye' of a machine that appears capable of peering into the future and predicting major world events.

The machine apparently sensed the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre four hours before they happened - but in the fevered mood of conspiracy theories of the time, the claims were swiftly knocked back by sceptics. But last December, it also appeared to forewarn of the Asian tsunami just before the deep sea earthquake that precipitated the epic tragedy.

Now, even the doubters are acknowledging that here is a small box with apparently inexplicable powers.

'It's Earth-shattering stuff,' says Dr Roger Nelson, emeritus researcher at Princeton University in the United States, who is heading the research project behind the 'black box' phenomenon.

'We're very early on in the process of trying to figure out what's going on here. At the moment we're stabbing in the dark.' Dr Nelson's investigations, called the Global Consciousness Project, were originally hosted by Princeton University and are centred on one of the most extraordinary experiments of all time. Its aim is to detect whether all of humanity shares a single subconscious mind that we can all tap into without realising.

And machines like the Edinburgh black box have thrown up a tantalising possibility: that scientists may have unwittingly discovered a way of predicting the future.

Although many would consider the project's aims to be little more than fools' gold, it has still attracted a roster of 75 respected scientists from 41 different nations. Researchers from Princeton - where Einstein spent much of his career - work alongside scientists from universities in Britain, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Germany. The project is also the most rigorous and longest-running investigation ever into the potential powers of the paranormal.

'Very often paranormal phenomena evaporate if you study them for long enough,' says physicist Dick Bierman of the University of Amsterdam. 'But this is not happening with the Global Consciousness Project. The effect is real. The only dispute is about what it means.' The project has its roots in the extraordinary work of Professor Robert Jahn of Princeton University during the late 1970s. He was one of the first modern scientists to take paranormal phenomena seriously. Intrigued by such things as telepathy, telekinesis - the supposed psychic power to move objects without the use of physical force - and extrasensory perception, he was determined to study the phenomena using the most up-to-date technology available.

One of these new technologies was a humble-looking black box known was a Random Event Generator (REG). This used computer technology to generate two numbers - a one and a zero - in a totally random sequence, rather like an electronic coin-flipper.

The pattern of ones and noughts - 'heads' and 'tails' as it were - could then be printed out as a graph. The laws of chance dictate that the generators should churn out equal numbers of ones and zeros - which would be represented by a nearly flat line on the graph. Any deviation from this equal number shows up as a gently rising curve.

During the late 1970s, Prof Jahn decided to investigate whether the power of human thought alone could interfere in some way with the machine's usual readings. He hauled strangers off the street and asked them to concentrate their minds on his number generator. In effect, he was asking them to try to make it flip more heads than tails.

It was a preposterous idea at the time. The results, however, were stunning and have never been satisfactorily explained.

Again and again, entirely ordinary people proved that their minds could influence the machine and produce significant fluctuations on the graph, 'forcing it' to produce unequal numbers of 'heads' or 'tails'.

According to all of the known laws of science, this should not have happened - but it did. And it kept on happening.

Dr Nelson, also working at Princeton University, then extended Prof Jahn's work by taking random number machines to group meditations, which were very popular in America at the time. Again, the results were eyepopping. The groups were collectively able to cause dramatic shifts in the patterns of numbers.

From then on, Dr Nelson was hooked.

Using the internet, he connected up 40 random event generators from all over the world to his laboratory computer in Princeton. These ran constantly, day in day out, generating millions of different pieces of data. Most of the time, the resulting graph on his computer looked more or less like a flat line.

But then on September 6, 1997, something quite extraordinary happened: the graph shot upwards, recording a sudden and massive shift in the number sequence as his machines around the world started reporting huge deviations from the norm. The day was of historic importance for another reason, too.

For it was the same day that an estimated one billion people around the world watched the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales at Westminster Abbey.

Dr Nelson was convinced that the two events must be related in some way.

Could he have detected a totally new phenomena? Could the concentrated emotional outpouring of millions of people be able to influence the output of his REGs. If so, how?

Dr Nelson was at a loss to explain it.

So, in 1998, he gathered together scientists from all over the world to analyse his findings. They, too, were stumped and resolved to extend and deepen the work of Prof Jahn and Dr Nelson. The Global Consciousness Project was born.

Since then, the project has expanded massively. A total of 65 Eggs (as the generators have been named) in 41 countries have now been recruited to act as the 'eyes' of the project.

And the results have been startling and inexplicable in equal measure.

For during the course of the experiment, the Eggs have 'sensed' a whole series of major world events as they were happening, from the Nato bombing of Yugoslavia to the Kursk submarine tragedy to America's hung election of 2000.

The Eggs also regularly detect huge global celebrations, such as New Year's Eve.

But the project threw up its greatest enigma on September 11, 2001.

As the world stood still and watched the horror of the terrorist attacks unfold across New York, something strange was happening to the Eggs.

Not only had they registered the attacks as they actually happened, but the characteristic shift in the pattern of numbers had begun four hours before the two planes even hit the Twin Towers.

They had, it appeared, detected that an event of historic importance was about to take place before the terrorists had even boarded their fateful flights. The implications, not least for the West's security services who constantly monitor electronic 'chatter', are clearly enormous.

'I knew then that we had a great deal of work ahead of us,' says Dr Nelson.

What could be happening? Was it a freak occurrence, perhaps?

Apparently not. For in the closing weeks of December last year, the machines went wild once more.

Twenty-four hours later, an earthquake deep beneath the Indian Ocean triggered the tsunami which devastated South-East Asia, and claimed the lives of an estimated quarter of a million people.

So could the Global Consciousness Project really be forecasting the future?

Cynics will quite rightly point out that there is always some global event that could be used to 'explain' the times when the Egg machines behaved erratically. After all, our world is full of wars, disasters and terrorist outrages, as well as the occasional global celebration. Are the scientists simply trying too hard to detect patterns in their raw data?

The team behind the project insist not. They claim that by using rigorous scientific techniques and powerful mathematics it is possible to exclude any such random connections.

'We're perfectly willing to discover that we've made mistakes,' says Dr Nelson. 'But we haven't been able to find any, and neither has anyone else.

Our data shows clearly that the chances of getting these results by fluke are one million to one against.

That's hugely significant.' But many remain sceptical.

Professor Chris French, a psychologist and noted sceptic at Goldsmiths College in London, says: 'The Global Consciousness Project has generated some very intriguing results that cannot be readily dismissed. I'm involved in similar work to see if we get the same results. We haven't managed to do so yet but it's only an early experiment. The jury's still out.' Strange as it may seem, though, there's nothing in the laws of physics that precludes the possibility of foreseeing the future.

It is possible - in theory - that time may not just move forwards but backwards, too. And if time ebbs and flows like the tides in the sea, it might just be possible to foretell major world events. We would, in effect, be 'remembering' things that had taken place in our future.

'There's plenty of evidence that time may run backwards,' says Prof Bierman at the University of Amsterdam.

'And if it's possible for it to happen in physics, then it can happen in our minds, too.' In other words, Prof Bierman believes that we are all capable of looking into the future, if only we could tap into the hidden power of our minds. And there is a tantalising body of evidence to support this theory.

Dr John Hartwell, working at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands, was the first to uncover evidence that people could sense the future. In the mid-1970s he hooked people up to hospital scanning machines so that he could study their brainwave patterns.

He began by showing them a sequence of provocative cartoon drawings.

When the pictures were shown, the machines registered the subject's brainwaves as they reacted strongly to the images before them. This was to be expected.

Far less easy to explain was the fact that in many cases, these dramatic patterns began to register a few seconds before each of the pictures were even flashed up.

It was as though Dr Hartwell's case studies were somehow seeing into the future, and detecting when the next shocking image would be shown next.

It was extraordinary - and seemingly inexplicable.

But it was to be another 15 years before anyone else took Dr Hartwell's work further when Dean Radin, a researcher working in America, connected people up to a machine that measured their skin's resistance to electricity. This is known to fluctuate in tandem with our moods - indeed, it's this principle that underlies many lie detectors.

Radin repeated Dr Hartwell's 'image response' experiments while measuring skin resistance. Again, people began reacting a few seconds before they were shown the provocative pictures. This was clearly impossible, or so he thought, so he kept on repeating the experiments. And he kept getting the same results.

'I didn't believe it either,' says Prof Bierman. 'So I also repeated the experiment myself and got the same results. I was shocked. After this I started to think more deeply about the nature of time.' To make matters even more intriguing, Prof Bierman says that other mainstream labs have now produced similar results but are yet to go public.

'They don't want to be ridiculed so they won't release their findings,' he says. 'So I'm trying to persuade all of them to release their results at the same time. That would at least spread the ridicule a little more thinly!' If Prof Bierman is right, though, then the experiments are no laughing matter.

They might help provide a solid scientific grounding for such strange phenomena as 'deja vu', intuition and a host of other curiosities that we have all experienced from time to time.

They may also open up a far more interesting possibility - that one day we might be able to enhance psychic powers using machines that can 'tune in' to our subconscious mind, machines like the little black box in Edinburgh.

Just as we have built mechanical engines to replace muscle power, could we one day build a device to enhance and interpret our hidden psychic abilities?

Dr Nelson is optimistic - but not for the short term. 'We may be able to predict that a major world event is going to happen. But we won't know exactly what will happen or where it's going to happen,' he says.

'Put it this way - we haven't yet got a machine we could sell to the CIA.'

But for Dr Nelson, talk of such psychic machines - with the potential to detect global catastrophes or terrorist outrages - is of far less importance than the implications of his work in terms of the human race.

For what his experiments appear to demonstrate is that while we may all operate as individuals, we also appear to share something far, far greater - a global consciousness. Some might call it the mind of God.

'We're taught to be individualistic monsters,' he says. 'We're driven by society to separate ourselves from each other. That's not right.

We may be connected together far more intimately than we realise.'


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To: djf

Jesus is God.

Father, Son, Holy Spirit ring a bell?


41 posted on 01/10/2006 4:15:31 AM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I don't mind infinity, as long as it slowly creeps up on me...


42 posted on 01/10/2006 4:18:52 AM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: ovrtaxt

He cried, "My father, why hast thou foresaken me".


43 posted on 01/10/2006 4:27:42 AM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: KeyWest

Morning KeyWest,
I believe the poster who said Uri Geller was for real, failed to see one telling episode of the Johnny Carson.

Johnny asked sir Uri to bend a spoon. Uri got all admanat and said right now! He would not perform his little trick.

A phony was exposed that night by Johnny, yet some still believe in that talisman with a trick spoon.

Uri is one of Michael "Pedo" Jackson's close friends so what could we expect as to real phenomenon.

If there were no God, I would not be here today. Ask any soldier who has fought and survived in combat whether their is a God or not.

I belong to a certain fraternal organization and the following are banned from ever joining,an (atheist)(madman)or a (fool. We do believe in God's existence,for we sure did not evolve from a tadpole.

You are 100% correct KW, and God has made many statements already.

So Mote It Be,
NSNR-THM





44 posted on 01/10/2006 4:31:17 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: RWR8189

Unless I missed it, the article does not mention anytime the deviated from the expected and nothing happened.

But of course if you have the entire world to pull an event from, is there ever a time that "nothing happens"?

Every so often, my cable connection goes out. Normally it is very reliable, and if I was to plot it on a graph, it would be a straight line, but if I then at as a spike or a curve the times it goes out, would it mean anything?

If I were to then go looking for a major event anywhere in the world, and find something happened somewhere, would I be able to say, my cable service can predict the future?

I am not an expert, but I thought if you had a radom event of just two choices (heads or tails) over time the number of heads and the number of tails should equal. It does not mean they will always be equal at every snap shot of the count, but over time they will equal. The fact that heads comes up 100 times in a row is possible without any outside influence, and at some point in time 100 tails could also occur. Over time the two cancel each other out, and the number of heads that appear and the number of tails remain similar.

These people should go to Las Vegas and talk to people who really know about odds.


45 posted on 01/10/2006 4:42:48 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: snarks_when_bored
Our entire cosmos was once smaller than a proton. That puts everything in the cosmos, then and now, into reasonably close connection, I'd say...

Yep, thought about that many times in my life. No matter what it is and how far away it might currently be, it used to be touching me so close that there was no distinguishing one thing from the other.

46 posted on 01/10/2006 4:48:47 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: djf
God never came back from the dead. If he exists, he never died. And in a way, that means he never lived.

I'm with you there. If it fits my definition of a 'God' it can't be killed by a few Romans.

47 posted on 01/10/2006 4:50:57 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
This is incorrect. These RNGs use real-time continual "white noise" to produce ones and zeros. Psuedo-RNGs use algorithms or pre-generated tables to generate random numbers. I've worked with both.

Interesting: Psuedo-RNGs can be used to measure short-term deviations when the entry point to a Psuedo-RNG table is randomly determined, e.g. by a throw of dice.
48 posted on 01/10/2006 5:02:56 AM PST by PrinceOfCups
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
If it is electronics it is not a Random Event Generator, it is a Pseudo Random Event Generator.

Good point. While the numbers generated are randomly distributed, the sequence in which they appear is fixed by the underlying algorithm. It would be significant if they reran the sequence in the absence of the original 'psychic influences' and it didn't repeat,though.

49 posted on 01/10/2006 5:10:37 AM PST by Grut
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To: PrinceOfCups

The trouble is that patterns don't depend on sequences.


50 posted on 01/10/2006 5:14:57 AM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: RWR8189
Can This Black Box See Into the Future?

"Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them?" In short MASSIVE BS ALERT.

51 posted on 01/10/2006 5:17:06 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: RWR8189
Related story here, Father of LSD nears the century mark.
52 posted on 01/10/2006 5:20:44 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: RWR8189

This does bring up all sorts of interesting questions.

Like suppose the machine could be refined to actually provide some sort of accurate prediction of a future event, maybe 10 minutes before it happens.

If that's sufficient warning to prevent the event, and actions were taken to do so, then the event would never occur. If the event doesn't occur, then how could the machine predict it?

I guess what would be most interesting is if the machine could be "tuned" to various possible future outcomes, perhaps some day being able to positively identify key events as turning points and positively predict the outcomes of various decisions (although observing history can already go a long way towards that, and most people don't even bother).

A more important question, I suppose, is that if this machine could predict the future, but for whatever reasons it was completely impossible to alter the outcome, would anyone really want to know the future then?


53 posted on 01/10/2006 5:22:42 AM PST by babyface00
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To: Prodigal Son

Jesus was not killed by a few Romans. He said I lay down my life and I take it up again. If His mission had not been to die no power on earth could have killed Him.


54 posted on 01/10/2006 5:23:38 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

"If it is electronics it is not a Random Event Generator, it is a Pseudo Random Event Generator."

Well, yes and no. If it is a processor running an algorithm then you are correct that it is pseudo. But if it is an electronic device lokking at random processes like white electronic noise or perhaps radioactive decay then it could be truly randomized.


55 posted on 01/10/2006 5:26:41 AM PST by jack308
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To: djf
Can you explain it? ..........Explain what? Coincidences? A perfect random number generator WOULD NOT generate equal heads and tails on any short term basis. It would generate RANDOM numbers of heads and tails which would equal out over time. These supposedly mysterious drifts are completely expected, completely normal, and predictive of nothing.
56 posted on 01/10/2006 5:43:52 AM PST by bobsatwork
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To: jack308; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; Grut
Since then, the project has expanded massively. A total of 65 Eggs (as the generators have been named) in 41 countries have now been recruited to act as the 'eyes' of the project.

Now this part interests me in light of what you say.

Would your pseudo random event generators running in different parts of the world synchronize to produce “a sudden and massive shift in the number sequence as his machines around the world started reporting huge deviations from the norm.”

While all of the machines may run the same algorithm would they all deviate from randomness at the same time?

57 posted on 01/10/2006 5:48:44 AM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: RightOnline
Interesting. People may scoff, but I personally know someone who quite regularly, and quite accurately, sees into the future. Not kidding.

And they use these powers for the sake of good, not personal gain, right? That's why they haven't hit the lottery repeatedly.

If it is true, then they need to visit The Amazing Randi's websight. There they can take his challange and win the prize.
58 posted on 01/10/2006 5:56:58 AM PST by newcats (Happy Reversal Of The Planet's Axial Wobble Day!!!!!)
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To: djf

"He cried, "My father, why hast thou foresaken me".

Which fulfilled the prophesy of David in Psalms 22:1


59 posted on 01/10/2006 5:57:37 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: bobsatwork
These supposedly mysterious drifts are completely expected, completely normal, and predictive of nothing....

It's not the deviations from a perfectly flat line that are unexpected; it's the apparent correlation of the drifts with significant world events. Post #45 raises an interesting question: does the black box produce "false positives", that is, does it show substantial deviations when no significant wold events occur? It might -- let's assume -- but then you'd have to look at whether the false positives and "hits" occurred in a random pattern, or whether the appeared to be a correlation between the "hits" and significant events that occurred, and those times when significant events of the same type occurred but yet were not predicted.

60 posted on 01/10/2006 6:04:48 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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