[John O]

But take a step back and look at yourself, what you are doing, given the current state of the culture on the subject of marriage

And what am I doing? Pointing out biblical truth. As I said earlier, you don't have to agree, but the truth is the truth.

And you are here lambasting someone for maintaining that children as the core reason for marriage, and calling that a cheapening of it.

First of all I did not lambaste anyone. I expressed my points, you disagreed. I noted that you have that right.

Secondly. While children are an important reason for marriage they are not the first one that God brings up. I'll go with His word over yours (or anyone else's anyday)

Um, if regarding children as a core of marriage cheapens it, what about regarding the core of marriage as sodomy?

You are the only one talking about sodomy. Obviosuly marriage is between a man and a woman. as it has been for all time and for the length of this discussion.

[JasonC]

Fair enough. Reviewing your previous comments, I find you carefully distinguished the view you attacked ("greatly cheapens") from your own view, without ascribing it to me. I understand your reasons for regarding civilizing companionship as the central purpose of marriage. I think that civilizing comes above all from shared duties to something larger than either partner. But I see where you are coming from.