[TAdams8591]

Let me get this straight... You want to deny marriage to older WOMEN and not older men (and bTW our discussion was mostly with JOHN O and he is 45) but we should not give our opinion that it is wrong for men to seek women oveseas when there are perfectly good, decent conservative women they can marry here? Correct?

"No, a man who seeks marriage in order to have children is not treating women as an object."

That is NOT what I said. I said men who believe the SOLE (meaning one and only) purpose for marriage is to have children, are objectifying women.

Say goodnight Jason. You are an UNFAIR, UNREASONABLE man and I will not converse with you again.

[JasonC]

Who said anything about "denial"? Marriage just isn't going to happen for older women, or much for older men. That's just nature, and as many times as you toss it out with a pitchfork, it will come back. Facts don't require your approval. In fact, precious little does.

[JasonC]

Nobody is objectifying women. Nobody could possible be bothered to care about objectifying women. Marxist ideologies and their feminist followers look around for objectification because Marx wrote a chapter on it. And when they want to be impudent and slang some group of men who have done nothing wrong to anyone, they swear at them in Marxist. And that is all you are doing, swearing at me and imaginary classes of men in Marxist. Well guess what? They don't care. Call them whatever you want, you only condemn yourself as a shrill and humorless scold. They are untouched, they never needed your approval for anything.