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To: JasonC
Okay thank you - what you describe are the feminazis that QUITE A NUMBER of FReeper women eschew...nay, deride and ridicule on their own. I think they were arguing from the perception that you are all too willing to write EACH AND EVERY American woman off as not only a lunatic fringe feminazi, but as one that is incapable of reform. That IS offensive and discouraging to those of us who are ON YOUR SIDE (btw) and who are trying to do what they can to correct the problem. I dont know how old you are, but I am 38 - of that "Generation X" group (no, I really dont mind the label, although I would prefer Generation Reagan, because Reagan was President when I started looking at the world outside my home at the age of 14, when I was shown that the haters of America were blowing smoke up our rears and that America was a GOOD place) - I digress - I am of that generation that has repudiated what we saw happen in the 60s/70s/80s and are quietly going about things in a manner that is as opposite and rebellious to the raving Lefties of the generation before us - i.e. raising our families and teaching our daughters NOT to hate men.

Im not sure if you are wanting to rant at those of us on FR for the sake of ranting, or if you might not want to focus your ire a little bit more closely. The word "shelf life" is not a considerate thing to say of ANYONE. I hope you were around on FR when we were all hurting over Terry Schiavo. All too many were summing up HER situation as a fait accompli i.e. 'shelf life.' The utter inhumanity contained in those words is offensive period. I think that woman was right to protest it being used against a woman who no longer fit the ideal woman. What is a woman supposed to do if she no longer fits the criteria? Fall down and die?

As for the foreign brides, whatever floats your boat, but I tend to think you are making assumptions about that situation that will bring you just as much sorrow as the most seething of feminazis you can find in the US. I hope you took note of my anecdote about my grandparents. God bless them and keep them both - they are now returned to Him - but I remember distinctly feeling very uncomfortable around my grandfather because he brooked no closer interaction between himself and the nearest female than was absolutely necessary. I think there is enough memory of this in many an American woman's mind to think that we here in America are beyond that. These are just observations, Im making....

I dont think anyone should put up with the feminazis either. For personal reasons of my own, I would LOVE to be able to silence them on their hypocrisy, especially after having watched what went on in the 90s. I also think that the most effective way of shutting them up is pointing and laughing at them every time they try to bully the rest of us into their pogram/agitprop (as you so aptly pointed out). It INVALIDATES them because their very arguments are invalid, and it flings it right back in their faces in a way they dont know how to deal with. Four words for the Feminazis : Bill Clinton Juanita Broderick. And then point and laugh. Because that's what they are : buffoons and small and not a threat.

best regards, Alkhin

662 posted on 01/11/2006 10:48:37 PM PST by Alkhin (He thinks I need keeping in order - Peregrin Took, FOTR)
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To: Alkhin
There is nothing insensitive about it. It is pungent enough to get the point across, direct, to the point, and calls a spade a spade. It is also true, and reflects an entirely conservative blunt truthfulness about human nature. None of us should have to put up with the PC nonsense of offense-mongering harridans deliberately trying to be offended wherever possible. To heck with them. No rational discussion of social mores are possible if we are all supposed to pretend that everyone wants to marry unattractive 45 year old single moms, to avoid offending absurd pieties. It is a subject fit for a play by Aristophanes, and those who objected to it were simply out of line.

As for foreign brides, my boat has nothing to do with it, I'm not interested either way. But American men who find loving wives that way are to be congratulated on finding someone, and wished the best. And that is helps undermine feminism here at home is to be warmly applauded - as indeed it was warmly applauded by several posters. Feminists are offended by it both because it shows them up as undesireable and unwanted, and because the desire clearly stems from the "feminism differential" between typical US women and typical women from more traditional societies. And they can just go jump in the ocean. Nobody needs their approval, or wants it. American men can do as they jolly well please in the matter, they are not the property of feminist ideologues.

As for the idea that they are not a threat, I disagree. I repeat my mantra and I will repeat until I am blue or every conservative on FR knows it, and understands in human terms what it means. 1/4 don't see the light, 1/3 don't have a father, 1/2 watch him leave.

That means, for every conception in American, a quarter of them end in deliberate abortion before being brought to term. Of all children born in America, a third are illegitimate. Of all those children born to two married parent, half see their parents split in divorce before reaching their 18th birthday. This is a human tragedy of epic proportions. In 1950, none of it was true. This is not a small matter to just be laughed off.

665 posted on 01/11/2006 11:10:02 PM PST by JasonC
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