Posted on 01/10/2006 1:49:22 AM PST by nickcarraway
You can't win, you know...
Objectively, it's none of those.
And she could tell you to do your own laundry, cook your own meals, stay home from work...the baby's sick, attend the parent-teacher mtg., buy and send the birthday, anniversary, sympathy, Christmas cards.
Guess I don't define "equal" as you do. Generally speaking, men surpass women's abilities in many areas. The same goes for women. Different, yes, but one is not automatically BETTER than the other. It should be a joint effort to get things done, IMO.
What do you think?
You can, of course, do as you please.
I'll agree that relationships in this country have never been harder to make last for the long haul. I'll also agree that there are a lot of people that are really screwed up in the head about what makes them work. I just don't agree that men who are unwilling to learn how to make relationships work with women in this country will have any long term success in finding a woman overseas either.
What an amazingly insulting analysis that was...overengineered, overwrought and underthought. The simple answer is always the place to start...in this case, that many men now understand how relationships work with many modern women. As a result of what they perceive, they have said, "No thanks."
There's no need to insult them.
And the long run begins now. I myself have no expectation of finding anyone. I have my children, and a grandchild, and my friends, and work ... but I get tired, sometimes, of sleeping alone; tired of waking up alone.
I'd have to say that about half the people I knew forty years ago are alone today. Men and women; not 'society's losers' by any means, educated, comfortable financially .. just alone.
Why is that, if things are so much better now than in 1950?
Again, the best to you and your husband; it's a comfort to know that marriages like yours are still out there.
With all due respect, they would have to be chumps. A society that requires that men be chumps to perpetuate the species is doomed.
What's more, they both keep insulting prospective clients.
Whether one approved of what we call traditional families, no one can deny that they worked. If there's a gender war going on today (and there obviously is) it's because roles have been redefined by women with little or no input from men.
Men have seen the result, and are saying in increasing numbers, "No thanks."
I actually agree it's not one of the '10 best posts by HairOfTheDog'. It's wordy and "overwrought" as you say. It's difficult to articulate exactly what I think about it and remain tactful.
I'm sorry you think we are so doomed. As a happily married person, I couldn't disagree more.
Wow...you've managed to define those who don't agree with you as posessing various pathologies. Is it any wonder that sensible men want no part of that?
There is nothing wrong with the 50's. We are just told that there are things wrong with it.
Geesh, kids had moms and dads, moms stayed home, dads worked, kids went to school, more semblance to life.
Compared to single parent families, or gay/lesbian families??
We are being told a lie.
Yes, blame him for the straw men you constructed.
She added respect to that list. I think it's a great book.
Thank you for the post.
Another great post.
That's why younger men, myself included, aren't (and won't be) getting married, marriage mafia be damned.
Dear Melas, You are NOT an idiot. Nothing wrong with opening doors for whoever. I do and don't give it a second thought. Help fix a flat? Thank God for people like you. Just be careful; the unsavory types get flats too.
You sound like a very nice lady.
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