Posted on 01/09/2006 7:46:28 PM PST by strategofr
Sunday night Jan 8, US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice discussed the forthcoming Palestinian elections to the legislative council on the telephone with Palestinian Authority chairman Abu Mazen.
Jerusalem was not briefed, DEBKAfile’s political sources report.
Twelve hours later, the US consul in Jerusalem Jacob Walles visited Abu Mazen’s office in Ramallah with an oral message from President George W. Bush. According to our sources, it was a presidential guarantee that all the Palestinian parties running for election on Jan 25 would be allowed to campaign openly in East Jerusalem, eligible voters in the city would be permitted to cast their votes through local post offices, and the voter slips of all Palestinian parties without exception would be available in the balloting booths.
The Israeli government was not informed of the extraordinary step taken by Bush over its head and in respect of Israeli sovereign territory.
The step has some disturbing implications:
1. The Bush administration took advantage of Ehud Olmert’s having been less than a week in the job of acting prime minister and treated his reluctance to undertake firm decisions - as long as prime minister Ariel Sharon’s condition was uncertain -as a leadership vacuum in Jerusalem. Without a word, administration officials marked down the goings-on around Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem and Olmert’s slowness to rise to the challenge.
3. Olmert’s failure to come down decisively on the Jerusalem issue has a serious consequence: Washington’s intercession enables the terrorist Hamas group to fly its green flags and hold rallies on Temple Mount with its standard calls for jihad against Israel, as well as piling its voter slips at Israeli government post offices as an option for the Palestinian voter. By this device, the backhanded recognition of a Palestinian terrorist organization sworn to destroy the Jewish state has been thrust down the interim government’s throat.
4. The Bush administration showed no consideration for Olmert’s efforts to find his feet as head of government, bid for the leadership of Kadima party and fight a tough election.
Governing circles in Jerusalem were stunned by the White House action. They asked if Bush wanted Binyamin Netanyahu and Likud to win the March election having awarded him the edge on the Jerusalem issue. Part of the shock derived from the Israeli ministers’ mistaken conviction that Abu Mazen would postpone the election to prevent the Hamas beating his ruling Fatah. DEBKAfile’s sources repeatedly reported that the White House would insist on the Palestinian vote taking place on schedule – even at the price of a Hamas win and regardless of Sharon’s indisposition and a transitional administration very much at sea in Jerusalem.
There are still hopes in Israeli government circles that the two US officials David
Welch and Elliot Abrams due this week will help moderate some of the particulars of the Bush pledge to the Palestinian leader. But the chances of this are slim.
"Israel did not receive American foreign aid until the 1970's."
Are you claiming that the United States did not provide funds for Israel to buy weapons or provide weapons to Israel before 1970?
Now even America does not keep its treatys with the Jews in Israel. Bout time Israel just told them to get stuffed, you signed on the dotted line, Hell, you WROTE the CONTRACT!
Live with it.
If I had to give a one word answer, I would say "liberalism".
" And on an historical basis, Debka has been reasonably accurate when it concerns internal Israeli affairs."
Thanks! I agree with you, along with .001 percent of all freepers.
", then I must assume you favor their being able to vote in Israeli elections."
All Arabs who live in Israel are able to vote in Israeli elections---always have been. It's called democracy, same sort of thing we have here.
"They seem very reliable here. Do you want to bet against this article?"
Another voice in support of DebKa! Yaaaa!!!
"So according to that news story, Debka LIED THROUGH THIER TEETH! "
Please specify which news story, you are referring to.
"If Hamas wins, watch how quickly they are reformed Worldwide."
Maybe, I don't know. The PLO pretended to accept Israel's right to exist. Hammas's platform is simple---complete control of Israel by the Palestinians. I don't think Hammas's platform will change I'm not sure the Europeans will embrace Hammas.
Sura 9:29: "Allah said 'until they pay the jizyah' - if they do not choose to embrace Islam; 'with willing submission' - in defeat and subservience; 'and feel themselves subdued' - disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of the dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated."[3]
"It is only very recently that some defenders of Islam began to assert that their society in the past accorded equal status to non-Muslims.
No such claim is made by spokesman for resurgent Islam, and historically there is no doubt that they are right.
Traditional Islamic societies neither accorded such equality nor pretended that they were so doing.
Indeed, in the old order, this would have been regarded not as a merit but as a dereliction of duty.
How could one accord the same treatment to those who follow the true faith and those who willfully reject it?
This would be a theological as well as a logical absurdity. "
" Dhimmitude is the status that Islamic law, the Sharia, mandates for non-Muslims, primarily Jews and Christians.
Dhimmis, “protected” or “guilty” people, are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur'an's command that they "feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29).
This denial of equality of rights and dignity remains part of the Sharia, and, as such, are part of the legal superstructure that global jihadists are laboring through violence to restore everywhere in the Islamic world, and wish ultimately to impose on the entire human race.
If dhimmis complained about their inferior status, institutionalized humiliation, or poverty, their masters voided their contract and regarded them as enemies of Islam, fair game as objects of violence.
Consequently, dhimmis were generally cowed into silence and worse.
It was almost unheard-of to find dhimmis speaking out against their oppressors; to do so would have been suicide.
For centuries dhimmi communities in the Islamic world learned to live in peace with their Muslim overlords by acquiescing to their subservience.
Some even actively identified with the dominant class, and became strenuous advocates for it."
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Why do I saddle you with all these quotations?
It explains the arab attitude toward Israel and Israelis..
It explains WHY the (arabs who call themselves palestinians) continue to assault the very people to whom they owe their economic life, without which most of these "palistinians" would starve or die of thirst..
How can a muslim hold his/her head up high, when they are dependent upon "lesser beings" ??
How can muslims be proud when those beneath them refuse to humble themselves, refuse to submit to their superiority, refuse to pay the "jhizya", the head tax, refuse to abide by the Sharia laws concerning dhimmi ???
This is the True basis of the war against Israel..
The war, the attacks, would all end tomorrow if Israel would simple "submit" to Islam, pay tribute, and allow Muslims to act as their Lords and Masters.. ( and occassionally violate and humiliate them.. according to their "right" as muslims..)
Make no mistake.. The war against Israel will continue, until every muslim is dead, or Israel becomes an Islamic state..
This is an utter myth easily disproved if you would do the most basic research.
She has her supporters.
"Bout time Israel just told them to get stuffed,"
You are overlooking the realities of the relative power of these two nations.
"The problem with the Palestinians would be solved if we forced them to be raised in places like America and Europe instead of by their parents and schools. The culture is a culture of death that spreads itself to the youth. The only way to fix that is by altering an entire generation."
I essentially agree with your statement. Unfortunately, there will probably not be any solution to the Palestinian problem in the forseeable future.
"Relatively little. "
Thanks. It's a little hard to believe, but I appreciate the information.
I apologize for my comment above which should have been addressed to the humanitarian Mr. Creel.
I'm sure you're right.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977
4-Any step taken towards liberation is a step towards the realization of the Liberation Organization's strategy of establishing the democratic Palestinian state specified in the resolutions of previous Palestinian National Councils.
5-Struggle along with the Jordanian national forces to establish a Jordanian-Palestinian national front whose aim will be to set up in Jordan a democratic national authority in close contact with the Palestinian entity that is established through the struggle.
The story in #19.
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