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House Members Worried over Cunningham Wire Report
NewsMax.com ^ | 9 January 2006 | Paul Rodriguez and Anthony Kimery,

Posted on 01/08/2006 8:39:21 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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To: Echo Talon
Put a wire on a Democrat and lets see what kind of tangled web we weave.

Between this and Abramoff maybe we can clean out a whole lot of congress and start over. I'm thoroughly sick of all of them.

61 posted on 01/08/2006 10:22:34 PM PST by Dianna
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To: dk/coro
If you want to talk about heroes, speak of Jerry Denton and Jim Stockdale

Real American Heroes!
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62 posted on 01/08/2006 10:25:04 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Congressman A: "We need to investigate all these sneak-n-peak activities the administration is doing, along with the illegal wiretaps. The public doesn't like what they've seen in the press and I am afraid the USA PATRIOT Act will not be renewed unless we show our concern with the Fourth Amendment being violated."

Congressman B: "No we don't. We're at war. The government needs these tools to root out the terrorists. Besides, if you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about."

Congressman A: "Well, I dunno. We've all done something wrong sometime, doncha think? I don't want my private phone conversations, especially talking with my fellow members, being monitored and maybe used for political purposes."

Congressman B: "There's absolutely nothing to worry about. None of us are criminals. Besides, the Justice Department knows better than go after members of Congress who've done nothing wrong. But if they did, they must know we're honorable people. It's not like when an ordinary crook gets caught and then tries to deny it. No, members of Congress are honorable. When presented with the evidence, we'd admit our wrongdoing right away and save all that expense for the taxpayers. An honorable person always takes responsibility and never tries to shift the blame . ."

Clean-cut FBI agent, approaching the pair: "Uh, excuse me, Congressmen. I wonder if you'd be so kind as to answer a few questions? Are either of you familiar with a gentleman named "Duke" Cunningham?"

63 posted on 01/08/2006 10:31:46 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Aussie Dasher

So you can use a Wire to ensnare Americans, but not tap phone calls to al queda members...


64 posted on 01/08/2006 10:33:51 PM PST by demsux
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To: Iscool

cunningham was not on anyone's list of rinos until he went bad, then all of a sudden he is a rino.


65 posted on 01/08/2006 10:40:07 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate.)
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To: Echo Talon
So you trust McCain, Hagel, Lugar and Chafee?

I trust they will not do what cunningham has done. I trust that they will do what they think is right for the country. I may have a different opinion on what is right, but I'm sure they will not be in the abramhoff or cunningham scandals. And I include Collins, Dole, Spector, Hatch and Voinivich too. Dewine I'm not so sure about.

66 posted on 01/08/2006 10:44:12 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Reading this article, I can almost guess that the reporter they referred to actually held to the "confidentiality agreement" and they were disappointed. They didn't expect it, hoping that they could gripe about the leak, but there was no releasing of the leak, so they went to Time.

The fact is, bribery is very hard to prove. If the Podunk Indians donate a million bucks to your campaign and then go to your office and give a tearful presentation on their plight and you write a nice letter about them, it's not necessarily a quid pro quo. If they can prove that it is, then it's bribery and it's a crime.

The most likely scenario is that Ney and maybe one or two others will be kicked out of Congress for accepting "illegal" gifts, a violation of House rules.

But if all of the money is campaign donations, I see nothing happening here.

67 posted on 01/08/2006 10:50:30 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: dk/coro
Feel your pain...but, for a couple of hours in combat the guy, and his back seat, were what most people would call heroes.. I would. A hard handle, for most people, to live with...And for better or worse, forty years down the line, we're not the same guys we were... Ch/Eng.(shot at and missed, sh;t at and hit) 1St MAW, Danang 65-66
68 posted on 01/08/2006 11:17:25 PM PST by ChEng
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To: Polybius
What's sad about it. He made his choices. He broke the law. He allowed his morals to be auctioned off to the highest bidder. He deserves what he gets. I see no difference in this and treason. He sold out the Constitution that he defended with his life for money. I hope he and all the rest of the 535 bribe takers in Congress go down.
69 posted on 01/09/2006 12:06:42 AM PST by unseen
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To: Echo Talon
Term limits??? yes 2 terms as a congressman, and 2 terms as a Senator thats 16 years of feeding at the trough that's enough for anyone. And if they are lucky two for president that is 24 years. If you can't due want you want in 24 years time you need to get off the pot and give someone else a try!!
70 posted on 01/09/2006 12:09:37 AM PST by unseen
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To: pawdoggie
Agreed this goes beyond party line. This is our country at stake. We either need to clean up D.C or enjoy are children growing up in a unfree country because these criminals are selling our rights down the drain to the highest bidders be it the Chinese, the industry captains, the special interest groups everyone gets something except the American people....no wait they get the shaft.
71 posted on 01/09/2006 12:13:58 AM PST by unseen
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To: LibertarianInExile
I would be surprised to find 1 out of the 535 members of Congress clean. So me a clean politician and I'll show you a unicorn.
72 posted on 01/09/2006 12:16:42 AM PST by unseen
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To: Aussie Dasher

CEO's, stock traders and brokers, and others have been found guilty of crimes and sent to prison, but I have yet to see a politician that has committed a crime go to jail and I will venture here that whom ever in congress or senate that is found to be guilty of a crime will not, repeat, will not go to jail or behind any bars. There will always be a DEAL made of some kind.
Another thing that I think the political folks in Washington, D.C. believe is that the river flow of dollars will and can not ever have an end to it. I say this because of the way they are always looking for a way to spent money and not any way to give back or take less money away from the U.S. citizens.


73 posted on 01/09/2006 1:31:33 AM PST by AIC
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To: Aussie Dasher
Nobody panic! We'll get Barrett to investigate this. Then after 10 years, his report will get 'neutered' of any damaging details.
74 posted on 01/09/2006 4:16:42 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Aussie Dasher

WHAT!!! I thought that a warrant was needed to listen in on conversations with all American citizens in America.


75 posted on 01/09/2006 5:34:15 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: AIC
I have yet to see a politician that has committed a crime go to jail ...

Trafficant

76 posted on 01/09/2006 5:35:48 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: LibertarianInExile
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than D.C.

What about Mos Eisley spaceport?

77 posted on 01/09/2006 5:35:49 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: norwaypinesavage
WHAT!!! I thought that a warrant was needed to listen in on conversations with all American citizens in America.

I bet Cunningham's wire was done after obtaining a warrant.

78 posted on 01/09/2006 5:36:39 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Echo Talon
When people start whining about NSA monitoring of American citizen's conversations with terrorists abroad, they forget the Clintons broke the law in the glare of broad daylight. Nobody bothered to question them: Travelgate, 900 FBI files, Chinagate, using the IRS to go after personal enemies like Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Elian Gonzalez, Waco, Ruby Ridge...

The point is, the Clintons aren't concerned about what is legal and what is against the the law--they were surrounded by enough enablers on both sides of the aisle who would let them get away with it.
79 posted on 01/09/2006 5:39:50 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Cboldt
"I bet Cunningham's wire was done after obtaining a warrant."

A warrant that specifically names each individual he is going to talk to?

80 posted on 01/09/2006 5:43:34 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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