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Oxnard Man Who Broke Into Apartment Is Slain
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 7, 2006 | Lance Pugmire

Posted on 01/07/2006 5:23:07 PM PST by george76

An Oxnard man who broke into the bedroom of a Rancho Cucamonga apartment early Friday morning was shot and killed by one of the occupants —

a prison counselor for the state Department of Corrections...

The intruder, Hector Soto, 21, of Oxnard, died less than three hours after being shot ...

The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department did not release the prison counselor's name.

He will not be charged...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; california; cucamonga; goodnews; guncontrol; moregoodnews; ranchocucamonga; secondamendment; wot
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To: Darksheare

Hope so – I hear they’re a bit painful.


41 posted on 01/08/2006 3:27:42 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

Yeah!

Check out post 38.
Haven't we heard this sort of thing before?
Obligatory insider troll there maybe?
Take a gander and let me know what you think about him.


42 posted on 01/08/2006 3:28:48 PM PST by Darksheare (Beware the waddling Penguin Invaders from Ursa Minor!)
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To: Darksheare

I think the poster forgot the < /sarcasm> tag.


43 posted on 01/08/2006 3:30:32 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

I hope so!


44 posted on 01/08/2006 3:32:12 PM PST by Darksheare (Beware the waddling Penguin Invaders from Ursa Minor!)
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To: Darksheare

Today is Sunday - I'll give the benefit of doubt.


45 posted on 01/08/2006 3:39:44 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

True.
Sunday is freebie day.


46 posted on 01/08/2006 3:40:31 PM PST by Darksheare (Beware the waddling Penguin Invaders from Ursa Minor!)
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To: Darksheare

Hey - gotta be nice now and then.


47 posted on 01/08/2006 3:42:08 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: george76

He was not charged...an why should he be charged?????


48 posted on 01/08/2006 3:42:57 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: ignorance is bliss22
Oh, please.

Have you ever been so drunk that you crawled through the window of someone else's house?

49 posted on 01/08/2006 3:44:31 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: R. Scott
"Let Hector suffer?"
If the homeowner possessed Superman's reflexes and gun control ability [highly unrealistic expectation], then he'd be able to plant shots with surgical precision on the moving target [intruder] for maximizing the suffering - bone joints, bladder, and so on. In practice, he'd be shooting at the center of mass, with a possible double-tap to the head after the intruder had been more or less immobilized by the center of mass hits.
50 posted on 01/08/2006 3:47:14 PM PST by GSlob
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To: R. Scott

I have a hard time being nice.
Violates my character alignment.
*Chuckle*


51 posted on 01/08/2006 3:49:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Beware the waddling Penguin Invaders from Ursa Minor!)
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To: GSlob

I can always hope.


52 posted on 01/08/2006 3:50:50 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

damn. i'm not saying the shooter did anything wrong, he shouldn't be charged...i agree with that. I'm just letting you guys know that he wasn't just another criminal who finally got what he deserved. It was an accident. I haven't ever been that drunk, but i've known people to be so drunk that they've done foolish things like that. all i'm saying is that it was an accident by Hector. The shooter was just defending his home and he did what he thought was right. Just to lend a little more credence to the accident theory, he lived at that apartment complex and he lived at the next building.


53 posted on 01/08/2006 5:49:36 PM PST by ignorance is bliss22
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
Looks like Hector chose the wrong gringo to mess with.

You're assuming the defender/prison counselor is a Gringo. Might not be. Might be a Gringa or a Latina/Latino or Negra/Negro or Asiática/Asiático. Story doesn't tell us much of anything about the home defender.

54 posted on 01/08/2006 6:36:50 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: El Gato

Slight correction. The article (excerpt anyway) does at least sort of imply that the defender is male. "He will not be charged", except that in English the default is masculine, so if the reporter did not know, he/she might write "he".


55 posted on 01/08/2006 6:39:14 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: ignorance is bliss22

"The break-in occurred about 2:50 a.m. Sheriff's homicide investigators said Soto opened a front window to enter the apartment in the 8400 block of Fir Street, and walked to a bedroom. The prison counselor fought with Soto and then pulled a pistol from his nightstand, sheriff's investigators said."

If, as you claim, he was merely drunk and merely in the wrong place, why did he put up a fight, and why did he climb through a window at 2 in the morning?
Something in your claim doesn't wash.


56 posted on 01/08/2006 6:51:22 PM PST by Darksheare (Beware the waddling Penguin Invaders from Ursa Minor!)
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To: ignorance is bliss22
The kid was drunk, and after trying for half an hour to unlock the door with his keys, he just climbed in the window. He thought he was at home and that the other guy had broken in. And he was attending school, so he wasn't just another criminal.

Got a link? This link, from Fox 11 in LA, but is an AP story, last updated today, mentions nothing about the intruder being drunk and mixed up, nor anything indicating that he lived in the same complex.

Authorities say Soto opened a front window to enter the apartment and walked to a bedroom. Police say the prison counselor fought with Soto and then pulled a pistol from his nightstand and shot him

57 posted on 01/08/2006 7:13:50 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Darksheare

if you were at home and a stranger was in the house, you would put up a fight right? even though it wasnt his house, he thought it was...seems reasonable to think one would put up a fight in that situation right?


58 posted on 01/08/2006 8:04:11 PM PST by ignorance is bliss22
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To: El Gato

naw man i dont have a link but i know who to talk to and i have this straight from the detective who handled the case. i'm just letting you guys know the whole story. technically, the story is true, he did break in but like i said, he tried for 30 minutes to get in the house but his key wouldnt work but he didnt realize that it wasnt his house because he was just so drunk. thats why he climbed in the window. wait a few days and it'l come out how it was an accident. believe me i wouldnt waste my time arguing just for the sake of arguing.


59 posted on 01/08/2006 8:07:22 PM PST by ignorance is bliss22
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