Posted on 01/07/2006 3:38:26 PM PST by jb6
Russian President Vladimir Putin has urged young Russians to observe the traditional moral values of Orthodox Christmas, which is celebrated in Russia on January 7, according to the old calendar. ''The positive influence of Christmas celebrations on the creative and public activities of Russian citizens is growing from year to year. It is important that the younger generation accepts the traditional moral values,'' Mr Putin said in a message greeting the Orthodox Christians and Russians on the occasion of Orthodox Christmas.
He attended a Christmas service in the Transfiguration Cathedral in Yakutsk (Sabha republic), in Siberia yesterday, where he was on a official visit.
''I cordially congratulate you on Christmas. This cheerful holiday brings joy and hope to millions of Christians and revives the good tradition of taking care of one’s near and giving support to people in need,'' Itar-Tass quoted him as saying.
Mr Putin also sent Christmas greetings to Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Aleksy II.
''On these festive days full of joy and good hopes, I would like to gratefully confirm your contribution to the promotion of peace, concord and mutual understanding between people, and the development of fruitful dialogue between the Church and the government on topical modern problems,'' he said in his message to the Russian Patriarch.
The Patriarch led the Christmas service last night at Moscow’s Christ the Saviour Cathedral which was attended by about 5,000 people. Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Fradkov was among the several top officials who attended the service.
''This is our common salvific holiday for God came to Earth for our salvation,'' the Patriarch said in his message to the Russians.
''The holiday fills our hearts with spiritual joy because God is with us. And if we are with God, God will be with us too, and we will fear no difficulties, ailments or trials,'' he noted.
Actually, Moskva was called Ukraine, well the region between Novgorad and Minsk/Pskov, since that was a frontier. Central Rus was Kiev, Black Rus was Chernagov, etc. But we'll ignore points and facts. How's spinning Yushchenko's loss coming? Do you and the rest of the Clinton spin docs get paid by the percentage point?
"Secondly, most of the casualties were in Kiev, Kharkov, Lughansk, Donetsk and Odessa which are all heavily Russian populated areas. "
I'll grant you that after killing 15 million Ukes between 1921 and 1939, the Kremlin did send many Russians to Ukraine to take their place.
Nazi Bestiality: Massacre of Ukrainian Jews
An essential component of Hitler's racist policy was the elimination of Jewish life in Germany, a policy that gathered malevolent force once he unleashed his war against Poland in 1939. That country became the dumping ground for all those in Greater Germany dubbed by the Nazis as undesirables. Within a year hundreds of thousands of former German Jewish citizens as well as Poles fell victim to the genocidal program orchestrated on behalf of the regime by Himmler and his S.S. Murders escalated as Russia was invaded in June 1941. Vast amounts of Russian territory were enveloped by the invading German armies. In the wake of the conquerors came the same S.S. killing machine to dispose of millions of Russian POW's as well as Russian civilians and all Jews caught in its genocidal net. The war provided the secrecy needed to keep virtually all knowledge of these murders unknown to the ordinary German people as well as the world at large. Only with the recovery of occupied territories by invading Allied (Western and Russian) armies in 1944-5 did the full horror of these years become widely known. The grisly record of the concentration camps formed part of the indictment of the Nazi leaders at their trial at Nuremberg in late 1945. The following eyewitness account of Hermann Graebe, a German construction engineer in the Ukraine in 1942, was cited in the closing speech of the British chief prosecutor at that tribunal.
On 5th October, 1942, when I visited the building office at Dubno my foreman told me that in the vicinity of the site, Jews from Dubno had been shot in three large pits, each about 30 meters long and 3 meters deep. About I,500 persons had been killed daily. All of the 5,000 Jews who had still been living in Dubno before the pogrom were to be liquidated. As the shooting had taken place in his presence, he was still much upset.
Thereupon I drove to the site, accompanied by my foreman and saw near it great mounds of earth, about 30 meters long and 2 meters high. Several trucks stood in front of the mounds. Armed Ukrainian militia drove the people off the trucks under the supervision of an S.S. man. The militia men acted as guards on the trucks and drove them to and from the pit. All these people had the regulation yellow patches on the front and back of their clothes and thus could be recognized as Jews.
My foreman and I went directly to the pits. Nobody bothered us. Now I heard rifle shots in quick succession from behind one of the earth mounds. The people who had got off the trucks--men, women and children of all ages-had to undress upon the orders of an S.S. man, who carried a riding or dog whip. They had to put down their clothes in fixed places, sorted according to shoes, top clothing and underclothing. I saw a heap of shoes of about 800 to 1,000 pairs, great piles of under linen and clothing. Without screaming or weeping these people undressed, stood around in family groups, kissed each other, said farewells, and waited for a sign from another S.S. man, who stood near the pit, also with a whip in his hand. During the I5 minutes that I stood near I heard no complaint or plea for mercy. I watched a family of about eight persons, a man and a woman both about 50 with their children of about one, eight and ten, and two grown-up daughters of about 2O to 24. An old woman with snow-white hair was holding the one-year-old child in her arms and singing to it and tickling it. The child was cooing with delight. The couple were looking on with tears in their eyes. The father was holding the hand of a boy about 10 years old and speaking to him softly; the boy was fighting his tears. The father pointed to the sky, stroked his head and seemed to explain something to him. At that moment the S.S. man at the pit shouted something to his comrade. The latter counted off about 20 persons and instructed them to go behind the earth mound. Among them was the family which I have mentioned. I well remember a girl, slim and with black hair who, as she passed close to me, pointed to herself and said, " Twenty-three." I walked around the mound and found myself confronted by a tremendous grave. People were closely wedged together and lying on top of each other so that only their heads were visible. Nearly all had blood running over their shoulders from their heads. Some of the people shot were still moving. Some were lifting their arms and turning their heads to show that they were still alive. The pit was already two-thirds full. I estimated that it already contained about 1,000 people. I looked for the man who did the shooting. He was an S.S. man, who sat at the edge of the narrow end of the pit, his feet dangling into the pit. He had a tommy gun on his knees and was smoking a cigarette. The people, completely naked, went down some steps which were cut in the clay wall of the pit and clambered over the heads of the people lying there, to the place to which the S.S. man directed them. They laid down in front of the dead or injured people; some caressed those who were still alive and spoke to them in a low voice. Then I heard a series of shots. I looked into the pit and saw that the bodies were twitching or the heads lying motionless on top of the bodies which lay before them. Blood was running away from their necks. I was surprised that I was not ordered away, but I saw that there were two or three postmen in uniform nearby. The next batch was approaching already. They went down into the pit, lined themselves up against the previous victims and were shot. When I walked back round the mound I noticed another truckload of people which had just arrived. This time it included sick and infirm persons. An old, very thin woman with terribly thin legs was undressed by others who were already naked, while two people held her up. The woman appeared to be paralyzed. The naked people carried the woman around the mound. I left with my foreman and drove in my car back to Dubno.
On the morning of the next day, when I again visited the site, I saw about 30 naked people lying near the pit-about 30 to 50 meters away from it. Some of them were still alive ; they looked straight in front of them with a fixed stare and seemed to notice neither the chilliness of the morning nor the workers of my firm who stood around. A girl of about 20 spoke to me and asked me to give her clothes and help her escape. At that moment we heard a fast car approach and I noticed that it was an S.S. detail. I moved away to my site. Ten minutes later we heard shots from the vicinity of the pit. The Jews still alive had been ordered to throw the corpses into the pit; then they had themselves to lie down in this to be shot in the neck.
Get it right, I am so glad that they respect the Russian Christmas date. It goes to show you that the Russians cleebrate Christmas the right way. They used to fight to pray at Christmas, we had to fight for the holiday over here.We won the holiday here, now onward to Easter. And if you knew anything about Russian Christmas it is a beautiful celebration.If the others in world would have come to the aid of the orthodox when they cried for help, half the world would not be radical islamic.
That's a very nice story :)
It's good that Putin seems committed to religion, I think I remember hearing somewhere that he is reinstating Christianity in the public schools.
Russians should be proud to have such a president.
March 15 1942 Ukrainian police and Germans execute 145 Poles, 19 Ukrainians, 7 Jews and 9 Soviet POWs in the village of Koszyszce.
May 19 1942 Lithuanian police execute 1,200 Poles in homes and on the street in reprisal for assassination of three Wehrmacht officers by Soviet partisans.
December 12 1942 Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) is formed in Polesie.
February 9 1943 Ukrainian Nationalists kill 173 Poles in Porosle near Sarny.
April 23 1943 Ukrainian Nationalists set fire to village of Zabara, and execute 750 Polish inhabitants.
May 4 1943 Ukrainian Galician division of the Waffen-SS is announced by the Wehrmacht and will be manned by thousands of volunteers urged on by Ukrainian leaders and the Ukrainian Catholic Church.
July 1 1943 Estimated 15,000 Poles have been murdered by the UPA in Wolyn by this date.
July 11 1943 Start of the "Peter and Paul Action" in Wolyn. This campaign of ethnic cleansing by the OUN-UPA involves the mass slaughter of non-Ukrainian citizens, especially Poles.
August 30 1943 Poles of Wola Ostrowiecka are rounded up by Ukrainian Nationalists. The men are hacked to death while women and children are packed into a school into which grenades are thrown: 550 people are murdered including 220 children.
March 12 1944 Ukrainian SS and Bandera supporters massacre 250 Poles in a Dominican nmonastery in Podkamien. A further 600 are killed in hamlets.
March 23 1944 Nazis and Ukrainians burn alive all the inhabitants of Huta Werchobuska for sheltering Jews.
Optional classes have been around for about 5 years now.
Why are you attacking me on this?
"March 15 1942 Ukrainian police and Germans execute 145 Poles, 19 Ukrainians, 7 Jews and 9 Soviet POWs in the village of Koszyszce."
jb6,
Your forgot to include:
"20th Century - Earth - Russians are the agents of death to 100 million"
Good news, thanks for posting this.
"Here's the SS you seem to defend"
Not me! I despise BOTH sides of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Treaty that started WWII.
I, unlike you , am not a lackey for ANY socialist regime.
Your Russophiles love to blame others for siding with the Nazis.
THE TRUTH IS THAT THE RUSSIANS SIGNED A TREATY WITH HITLER!
I guess evertime you yell about one latvian SS sympthizer, it ameliorates 100,000 victims of kremlin genocide.
Spanalot, you started this, and when we pour numbers and historical facts, you are running away!
What now?
You badmouthed Christian priests, than attacked antifascism in WWII what more?
The truth is out of fear almost every nation in Europe tried to appease hitler.
You seem to love Socialist Ukraine.
Truth is, that a Georgian dictator of the Soviet Union signed a treaty with Hitler. Under that Soviet Empire were the slave nationalities of Russians, Ukrainians, Belaruss, Jews, Germans and 200 other ethnic groups.
Oh and all the BIG BIG WORDS your lieing mind comes up with still don't make them the truth.
I guess evertime you yell about one latvian SS sympthizer, it ameliorates 100,000 victims of kremlin genocide.
Nice to see you come on out of your whole and excuse, once again, Nazi SS genocides, such as the Latvian SS butchered Riga's and Berlin's jews. Oh that's right, they were just sympthizers.
Defend your western Ukrainian nazis and your Latvian nazis all you want, you are what you defend. As for Russians, least you forget that 30 million Russians were victims of the Soviets. But you know that, you're just not paid to say that to others....that's why we're here, to keep people like you in the light of truth, something you aren't familiar with.
"Spanalot, you started this, and when we pour numbers and historical facts, you are running away!
What now?
You badmouthed Christian priests, than attacked antifascism in WWII what more?"
What numbers? The one that Putin always trots out to show the price "russia" payed during WWII - when it was Ukraine that lost 20% vs Russias 3%?
Or do you mean the several thousand atrocities committed by Poles vs the 100 million that Russia killed in the last century?
And do you mean the Moscow church that was run by the KGB for 70 years - the one that campaigned in Ukraine for Puties candidate?
Pls edify us.
You are sick boy.
Problem is that Stalin is 6 ft under for 50 years now and Baltic Nazis are minister in "democratic" EU goverments!
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