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Powering the Future: Soup-Can Spacecraft and Postage-Stamp Engines
space.com ^
| 08/08/01
| Robert Roy Britt
Posted on 01/07/2006 3:04:39 PM PST by KevinDavis
Inside a sprawling, crowded building at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory is a small window to the future of space exploration. Busting out of one end of the building, a vacuum chamber the size of a motor home houses an engine that has been running for nearly three years.
It is months beyond its life expectancy. Its power source is unlimited. Its fuel is plucked from the air we breathe. And it is 10 times more efficient than a chemically powered engine.
(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...
TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ion; nasa; space
An oldie but goodie......
To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; The_Victor; ...
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posted on
01/07/2006 3:05:10 PM PST
by
KevinDavis
(http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
To: KevinDavis
I was born way too soon. I want to fly an Ion powered craft to Mars.
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posted on
01/07/2006 3:21:13 PM PST
by
Cyclops08
To: KevinDavis; Swordmaker
The engine itself makes no sound. It is a gentle engine, its thrust equivalent to the force exerted to lift a sheet of paper. But it runs, and it runs, and it runs. And since there is no atmosphere in space to cause friction, a spacecraft powered by an ion engine gradually moves faster and faster. Its ultimate speed depends in part on how long the engine can last. AND how large a mass it is accelerating. These articles never get specific-enough with facts like peak thrust and engine mass (two of the most-basic: even disregarding power supply mass and available fuel mass, as well as vehicle mass, how long would it take for one of these things to 'get out of its own way' (i.e. reach some kind of usable speed?).
Yes, it's interesting. Yes, it's doing something. But is it doing enough of something to be useful?
It is monitored and controlled by a dinosaur of a computer, a Macintosh Quadra 650.
Hey - watch it fella... Mac ping! :)
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posted on
01/07/2006 3:44:12 PM PST
by
solitas
(So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
To: KevinDavis
...controlled by a dinosaur of a computer, a Macintosh Quadra 650. Surely not a dinosaur. A monotreme*, maybe, but not a dinosaur.
*I.E., Echidna, Platypus; a living example of a dead-end line.
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posted on
01/07/2006 3:44:15 PM PST
by
Grut
To: KevinDavis
Well, it sounds good, but what happens at the end of the journey? Mid course corrections, planetary/lunar insertions?
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posted on
01/07/2006 3:53:36 PM PST
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: KevinDavis
You, too, can have one, someday, at a cost of billions. It will be given to a conglomorate with distribution rights.
Our taxes pay for this development, but we, as consumers, pay for it again later, one minor stage at a time.
sarcasm/off
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posted on
01/07/2006 4:04:33 PM PST
by
wizr
To: KevinDavis
Soup can? What happens if the string breaks?
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posted on
01/07/2006 4:06:18 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
To: KevinDavis
An oldie but goodieMmmm, mmmm, good?
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posted on
01/07/2006 4:08:24 PM PST
by
P.O.E.
(Liberalism is the opiate of the elite classes.)
To: KevinDavis
"The fuel is gas that occurs naturally in the atmosphere, called xenon," Brophy explains. "It's an inert gas"I'm missing something here. Do they take the gas with them in the spaceship?
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posted on
01/07/2006 4:20:37 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: KevinDavis
" And it is 10 times more efficient than a chemically powered engine."
Very efficient, but a small thrust.
0.092kg = about 3 oz. of thrust.
Because of the very small mass of fuel and engine, the craft gets to 10,000 mph after about 20 months.
To: KevinDavis
This is a great concept . I will keep an "eye on " it !
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posted on
01/07/2006 5:01:46 PM PST
by
Renegade
To: Cyclops08
I am with you, Kevin. I wish I had been born 3-500 years in the future when travel throughout the solar system will be routine, Mars will be in the process of being terraformed, and sending probes to the nearest stars will be commonplace. I envy those future pioneers
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posted on
01/07/2006 5:21:42 PM PST
by
wingsof liberty
(Marines - the few, the proud, the best!!)
To: wizr
You, too, can have one, someday, at a cost of billions. It will be given to a conglomorate with distribution rights. Our taxes pay for this development, but we, as consumers, pay for it again later, one minor stage at a time. Naw. If Hillary gets in, she will just give it to China
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posted on
01/07/2006 10:29:17 PM PST
by
Colorado Doug
(Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
To: edwin hubble
Because of the very small mass of fuel and engine, the craft gets to 10,000 mph after about 20 months.Well, that's better than my old '68, 427 Camaro would do.
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posted on
01/07/2006 10:30:52 PM PST
by
Colorado Doug
(Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
To: Colorado Doug
Well, that's better than my old '68, 427 Camaro would do. Hey, your Camaro can do 0-60 in 2.75 seconds - if the cliff is at least 121 feet high. :)
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posted on
01/08/2006 9:37:58 AM PST
by
solitas
(So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
To: solitas
Hey, your Camaro can do 0-60 in 2.75 seconds - if the cliff is at least 121 feet high. :) Its 0-60 time was not far off that mark. It was the top speed of 10,000 that it would have had a problem with ;-)
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posted on
01/08/2006 1:19:43 PM PST
by
Colorado Doug
(Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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