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To: Junior_G

Deer?

I was in the same predicament, got lots of advice, and ended up with a fine rifle (Browning A-Bolt .270). But knowing what I know now, most decent bolt-action .270s will kill deer at relevant ranges.

All the main makes of rifles will have quite good out-of-the-box accuracy. Unless you're already a sniper, you'll probably not notice one that is 1/2 inch worse than another. They'll all kill deer very nicely.

The .270 has the advantage of a relatively flat trajectory, while still packing plenty of punch. The .30-06 has the same general configuration and powder load, but it pushes a bigger bullet, so the trajectory is a little loopier. Some of the bigger cartridges being proposed here (.308) are going to hurt your shoulder more, and you'll develop a flinch. They're not necessary for deer, but are excellent for Elk or Terrorists at long distances! ;-)

What I would recommend is to get a .270 bolt action that you like the feel of, and practice practice practice. I suspect you'll be most accurate with a gun that you are happy to use, and do use regularly.

P.S. - Optics can / should cost you almost as much as the rifle. Some people swear you should buy more scope than rifle. I have two scopes, and the better one makes a remarkable difference. It turns dusk into daylight and that's when the critters are on the move!


103 posted on 01/06/2006 2:10:57 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Surrender! - Vote Democrat.)
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To: Brad Cloven

Whoops! I see in later posts that you included Elk. I agree with those recommending a step up, .30-06 or better. A .270 is still usable, but generally regarded as a little too light for elk.


108 posted on 01/06/2006 2:15:15 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Surrender! - Vote Democrat.)
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To: Brad Cloven

Thanks for the words of wisdom. What kind of scopes did you get?


109 posted on 01/06/2006 2:18:53 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Brad Cloven

"The .270 has the advantage of a relatively flat trajectory, while still packing plenty of punch. The .30-06 has the same general configuration and powder load, but it pushes a bigger bullet, so the trajectory is a little loopier"

Not true. A 130gr .270 has a ballistic coeficient of around .380. A 180gr .30 goes over .450. This means that the .270 will bleed velocity at a faster rate and have more drop at longer ranges. Plus, the much higher secional density of the .30 caliber bullet will result in much greater penetration. You have to use a 150gr bullet in you .270 and drive it over 2800 ft/sec to come anywhere close to the '06. AND - the 30-06 is just getting warmed up with 180 grainers, you can buy factory ammo loaded with 220's that make the .270 look like the light game round it is.


128 posted on 01/06/2006 2:38:40 PM PST by VRing
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To: Brad Cloven

308 is a shortened 30-06 developed to work in automatic weapons. It holds less powder and has less kick than the older 30-06.


129 posted on 01/06/2006 2:39:22 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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