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Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip (WARP ENGINE USAF/NASA)
scotsman ^ | Thu 5 Jan 2006 | SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT

Posted on 01/06/2006 10:07:57 AM PST by epluribus_2

AN EXTRAORDINARY "hyperspace" engine that could make interstellar space travel a reality by flying into other dimensions is being investigated by the United States government.

The hypothetical device, which has been outlined in principle but is based on a controversial theory about the fabric of the universe, could potentially allow a spacecraft to travel to Mars in three hours and journey to a star 11 light years away in just 80 days, according to a report in today's New Scientist magazine.

The theoretical engine works by creating an intense magnetic field that, according to ideas first developed by the late scientist Burkhard Heim in the 1950s, would produce a gravitational field and result in thrust for a spacecraft.

Also, if a large enough magnetic field was created, the craft would slip into a different dimension, where the speed of light is faster, allowing incredible speeds to be reached. Switching off the magnetic field would result in the engine reappearing in our current dimension.

The US air force has expressed an interest in the idea and scientists working for the American Department of Energy - which has a device known as the Z Machine that could generate the kind of magnetic fields required to drive the engine - say they may carry out a test if the theory withstands further scrutiny.

Professor Jochem Hauser, one of the scientists who put forward the idea, told The Scotsman that if everything went well a working engine could be tested in about five years.

However, Prof Hauser, a physicist at the Applied Sciences University in Salzgitter, Germany, and a former chief of aerodynamics at the European Space Agency, cautioned it was based on a highly controversial theory that would require a significant change in the current understanding of the laws of physics.

"It would be amazing. I have been working on propulsion systems for quite a while and it would be the most amazing thing. The benefits would be almost unlimited," he said.

"But this thing is not around the corner; we first have to prove the basic science is correct and there are quite a few physicists who have a different opinion.

"It's our job to prove we are right and we are working on that."

He said the engine would enable spaceships to travel to different solar systems. "If the theory is correct then this is not science fiction, it is science fact," Prof Hauser said.

"NASA have contacted me and next week I'm going to see someone from the [US] air force to talk about it further, but it is at a very early stage. I think the best-case scenario would be within the next five years [to build a test device] if the technology works."

The US authorities' attention was attracted after Prof Hauser and an Austrian colleague, Walter Droscher, wrote a paper called "Guidelines for a space propulsion device based on Heim's quantum theory".


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KEYWORDS: airforce; drive; podkletnov; warp
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Prototype test in five years should be just in time for the Democrats to take over the necessary appropriations comittee's to kill the program. Before the PLA or maybe the Eurostani's tests theirs.
1 posted on 01/06/2006 10:07:59 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2

Quadruple post.


2 posted on 01/06/2006 10:09:15 AM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: epluribus_2

I hear the "Palestinians" are working on one too.


3 posted on 01/06/2006 10:09:41 AM PST by zarf (The BCS sucks.)
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....where the speed of light is faster....

That's where I stopped reading............

4 posted on 01/06/2006 10:10:18 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: epluribus_2

Let me guess - it runs on dilithium?


5 posted on 01/06/2006 10:10:29 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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The power requirements would be insane. Here's an excerpt from the Sandia website about the Z Machine. The most recent advance resulted in an output X-ray power of about 290 trillion watts -- for billionths of a second, about 80 times the entire world's output of electricity.
6 posted on 01/06/2006 10:11:12 AM PST by manglor
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To: manglor
The Z Machine in action

7 posted on 01/06/2006 10:11:42 AM PST by manglor
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To: epluribus_2

Sounds a lot like the Infinite Improbability Drive to me!


8 posted on 01/06/2006 10:13:12 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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I don't know if this would be a dimension of science fiction or science, but anways... PING!


9 posted on 01/06/2006 10:13:45 AM PST by Wiz
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"If the theory is correct then this is not science fiction, it is science fact," Prof Hauser said.

World class IF.

This is pure speculation at this point. There are a number of SF writers who do such speculation better.

10 posted on 01/06/2006 10:14:38 AM PST by Restorer
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I'm sure they said similar things about the manhatten project - I mean this little tin can can produce HOW MUCH energy?


11 posted on 01/06/2006 10:15:19 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2

Zephraim Chochran is the lead scientist on this project.


12 posted on 01/06/2006 10:15:33 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: zarf

Is it based upon technology from the alien spaceship sequestered at Area 51?


13 posted on 01/06/2006 10:15:36 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: epluribus_2

Hey DUmmies, we're just 10 dollars away from perfecting the warp drive that'll send The Smirk and his cronies on a one-way trip to see the Klingons around Uranus!


14 posted on 01/06/2006 10:17:33 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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Very interesting with unlimited possibilities but I probably will have already left this rock via my trip of faith. I do believe there are more dimensions in the universe then we know.
On the side will this make the flux capacitor obsolete?

mc
15 posted on 01/06/2006 10:19:10 AM PST by mcshot (Rusty but trusty or vice versa.)
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To: epluribus_2

A three-hour tour?


16 posted on 01/06/2006 10:19:48 AM PST by Gtown
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highly controversial theory that would require a significant change in the current understanding of the laws of physics

It's a perfect idea, now to get the law of physics to recognize it. It's the new CartBeforeTheHorse Warp engine.

17 posted on 01/06/2006 10:20:39 AM PST by Sax
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To: KevinDavis

warpppppPING!


18 posted on 01/06/2006 10:22:50 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Gtown

It sure should be too long for Spock :)


19 posted on 01/06/2006 10:23:57 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Red Badger

Actually, relativity does not preclude faster than light travel, which is common at the quantum level. Since the connections between quantum mechanics and gravity are not worked out in the generally accepted models of physics, we are due for some major surprises. Notably, the proposed drive works by manipulating gravity, a common literary device in science fiction. Perhaps it will also be a feature of manned space vehicles in the next decade or two.


20 posted on 01/06/2006 10:24:04 AM PST by Rockingham
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