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Ex-miner recalls Sago: 'It was a hellhole'
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Friday, January 6, 2006 | Robin Acton

Posted on 01/06/2006 8:02:48 AM PST by Jaxter

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To: freeperfromnj

They don't understand the marginality of it all. Ross bought this mine bceuse the demand for coal is expanding and this makes such marginal mines rather suddenly profitable. But, inevitably, you are slow to bring the mine up to standards. Like buying an old truck tractor that has many miles still on it, but neglecting to get the new parts that will double its lifetime. Don't let the bookkepers make crucial operational decisions,and make sure that the actual operators are telling you the truth.


41 posted on 01/06/2006 8:38:44 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RetiredArmy

"Nobody forced them to go to work in the mines. Maybe if they had prepared themselves a little better with skills other than digging in a mine, they would not be in such situations."
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Your skill is being a jerk.


42 posted on 01/06/2006 8:39:04 AM PST by Stark_GOP
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To: traviskicks

I used to hear stories about my grandpa rescuing people and finding dead people in a lot of coal mines in Southern Illinois back in the day. All of them staffed by UMWA workers.


43 posted on 01/06/2006 8:39:48 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Some mines are wet. Most mining equipment could tram through water with no problem. Underground mining equipment is permissable and all electrical parts are sealed air and I presume water tight.


44 posted on 01/06/2006 8:40:35 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: twigs

I didn't say we don't need mining. I am saying that no one FORCED this guy to go to work there, thus, he has two options. One, continue to work there, or two, quit.


45 posted on 01/06/2006 8:40:48 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: OldFriend

Just like the Democrat Party. American History started the day Bush took office.


46 posted on 01/06/2006 8:40:54 AM PST by TNdandelion
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To: Jaxter

I'll compare yearly salaries with you time you want punk.


47 posted on 01/06/2006 8:41:48 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: twigs

Sorry to hear about your husband's condition - I hope Colmes continues to have that positive effect on his political philosophy!


48 posted on 01/06/2006 8:42:12 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: brazzaville

No fool, I spent my time getting enough training and education not to have to work in coal mines and make stupid comments such as you.


49 posted on 01/06/2006 8:42:35 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: brazzaville

This guy needs to be forced to spend eight hours inside an actual coal mine. This is like knocking the members of an infantry squad who, by the way, are getting paid a whole lot less than miners.


50 posted on 01/06/2006 8:42:40 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Stark_GOP

And yours is what? Being a jackass? Thanks for your comments, Mr./Ms. Perfect.


51 posted on 01/06/2006 8:43:31 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: TNdandelion

The media hopes we all have amnesia and believe that paradise here on earth was destroyed when President Bush was sworn in.


52 posted on 01/06/2006 8:44:00 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: RetiredArmy

We need him mining. I prefer that workers who contribute to my well-being work under the kind of conditions that reflects the culture of life and compassionate with which we identify the USA.


53 posted on 01/06/2006 8:44:21 AM PST by twigs
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
..generations deep,

..and more, they are a metaphor for any proud of his job whatever it is worker being disregarded & disrespected for "the good of the greater world economy", the pathetic "bottom line" or whatever tasteless evil morsel is shoved down their throat by greedy little lilly livered clean fingernails.

"Don't get me started!"

-Daffy Duck-

54 posted on 01/06/2006 8:44:28 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: RetiredArmy
You are a pompous ass who feels so superior to those who work with their hands for a living.

Coal is energy and more vital to our country than 99.9% of the attorneys.

55 posted on 01/06/2006 8:44:58 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Free advice: Stop digging.


56 posted on 01/06/2006 8:45:44 AM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: GOPPachyderm

LOL!! I doubt he'll ever become a Republican. But that's ok. I actually want people like him voting in the Dem primaries. We actually agree on most issues. And we've learned not to bring the others up at the dinner table.


57 posted on 01/06/2006 8:46:00 AM PST by twigs
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To: twigs

Then he needs to shut up and mine. Like I said in another post. YOU, me, everyone has a CHOICE. You can work there or quit. If YOU, he or I don't like the conditions, you can always go somewhere else. I have in my time gone to a different job because I did not like the place I worked. Yup, I bit*ched about it. My wife said then find another job. I did. So, this guy has the same choice. If he does not like it there, go somewhere else. And, if that is the only thing in the entire world he knows how to do, then his options are limited now, aren't they?


58 posted on 01/06/2006 8:47:16 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Even if your statement is true that better education increses job opportunities, people shouldn't have to work in dangerous conditions. I think the question here is whether the conditions were really bad, or if this is 20/20 hindsight making unfounded accusations.

How many people in this country have died from nuclear energy? Japan and France heavily rely on nuclear energy.


59 posted on 01/06/2006 8:47:38 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: teenyelliott
nonunion coal mines

No need to read further. I know from that where this article is going.

The Tribune Review is the conservative paper in Pittsburgh.

Now, where economics are concerned, I'm virtually a libertarian. I believe in as little regulation as possible. Regulation only makes problems worse, which is often the intent (to keep the people having the problem dependent on the "benevolent" government.) But while there is a certain degree of risk associated with mining, that risk the miners agreed to. Tehre shouldn't be additional risk due to damage caused by the owner's negligence. And the government shouldn't allow such a mine to operate.

60 posted on 01/06/2006 8:48:31 AM PST by TBP
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