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Key Democrat Witness in Alito Hearings Has Truth Problem
Wikiquote ^ | 1/6/2006 | Kate Michaelman

Posted on 01/06/2006 12:02:49 AM PST by Notwithstanding

Senate Democrats plan to call Kate Michaelman, former head of the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), to testify in the confirmation hearings of Supreme Court nominee Judge Samuel Alito. She has a track record of saying whatever will support her extremist views on abortion, without regard to facts.

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Michaelman has in the past when commenting on abortion?

"The fact is that late term abortions are exceedingly rare. They are performed only when necessary to preserve a woman's health or life, or when a woman is carrying a fetus with lethal anomalies, many of which would die soon after birth. Again, the fact is that these abortions, these terminations are compelled by life and, life and health reasons and grave fetal abnormalities." - False statement made by Kate Michelman, President, National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League [NARAL], at a news conference, 11/7/1995

"[Late-term abortions] are rare terminations, Tony [Snow]. They occur very rarely. They occur under the most difficult of circumstances, as I said...these are pregnancies that have gone awry." - False statement made by Kate Michelman, NARAL President, FOX News Sunday, 6/2/1996

"But late-term abortions are only used under the most compelling of circumstances--to protect a woman's health or life or because of grave fetal abnormality." - False statement made by Kate Michelman, NARAL President, Washington Times, 6/16/1996

Michelman's statement contradicts testimony by Dr. George Tiller who performs thousands of these abortions annually, the statements of the official spokesman for abortion providers Ron Fitzsimmons, and those of Dr. Martin Haskell the inventor of the partial-birth abortion (see below):

"We have some experience with late terminations; about 10,000 patients between 24 and 36 weeks and something like 800 fetal anomalies between 26 and 36 weeks in the past 5 years." - Dr. George R. Tiller, declaring his pro-choice credentials in a speech to the National Abortion Federation, April 2-4, 1995, New Orleans, LA. Click to listen ( http://www.dr-tiller.com/images/latekills.mp3 )

"When you're a doctor who does these abortions and the leaders of your movement appear before Congress and go on network news and say these procedures are done in only the most tragic of circumstances, how do you think that makes you feel? You know they're primarily done on healthy women and healthy fetuses, and it makes you feel like a dirty little abortionist with a dirty little secret. I think we should tell them the truth, let them vote and move on. In the vast majority of cases, the procedure is performed on a healthy mother with a healthy fetus that is 20 weeks or more along. The abortion-rights folks know it, the anti-abortion folks know it, and so, probably, does everyone else." - Ron Fitzsimmons, Executive Director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, New York Times, 2/26/1997

Reporter: [Is] the fetus . . . dead beforehand...? Haskell: No, it's really not. . . in my case, I would think probably about a third of those are definitely. . . dead before I actually start to remove the fetus. And probably the other two-thirds are not. Reporter: Is the skull procedure also done to make sure that the fetus is dead so you're not going to have the problem of a live birth? Haskell: It's immaterial. If you can't get it out, you can't get it out. . . The point here is to effect a safe legal abortion. I mean, you could say the same thing about the D&E [dilation and evacuation] procedure. You know, why do you do the D&E procedure? Why do you crush the fetus up inside the womb? To kill it before you take it out? Well, that happens, yes. But that's not why you do it. You do it to get it out. I could do the same thing with a D&E procedure...But that's not really the point. The point here is you're attempting to do an abortion. And that's the goal of your work, is to complete an abortion. . . Reporter: I wanted to make sure I have both you and (Dr.) McMahon saying 'No' then. That this is misinformation, these letters to the editor saying it's only done when the baby's already dead, in case of fetal demise and you have to do an autopsy. But some of them are saying they're getting that information from NAF [National Abortion Federation]. Have you talked to Barbara Radford or anyone over there? Haskell: Well, I had heard that they were giving that information, somebody over there might be giving information like that out. The people that staff the NAF office are not medical people. And many of them when I gave my paper, many of them came in, I learned later, to watch my paper because many of them have never seen an abortion performed of any kind. Reporter: Did you also show a video when you did that? Haskell: Yeah. I taped a procedure a couple of years ago, a very brief video, that simply showed the technique. The old story about a picture's worth a thousand words. Reporter: As National Right to Life will tell you. Haskell: Afterwards they were just amazed. They just had no idea. And here they're rabid supporters of abortion. They work in the office there. And...some of them have never seen one performed...And I'll be quite frank: most of my abortions are elective in that 20-24 week range...In my particular case, probably 20% are for genetic reasons. And the other 80% are purely elective..." - Dr. Martin Haskell, explaining how his late-term abortion method is used to effect safe abortions, to American Medical News (U.S. Congressional Record, 1996, p. H2919)

1 posted on 01/06/2006 12:02:50 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

This evil witch is a key witness? They have got nothing.


2 posted on 01/06/2006 12:05:52 AM PST by doug from upland (NEW YORK TIMES -- traitorous b*st*rds)
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To: Notwithstanding

Click to listen to Dr. Tiller: http://www.dr-tiller.com/images/latekills.mp3


3 posted on 01/06/2006 12:06:03 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Notwithstanding

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1552626/posts
Is the source that Michaelman will be called by the Democrats (see the last paragraph).


4 posted on 01/06/2006 12:07:19 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Notwithstanding

Kate Michaelman is a blood-whore and a media darling. No, there's no wacky contrast there. In fact, the statement is reduntant.


5 posted on 01/06/2006 12:08:02 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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Link to article about hearings: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060105/ap_on_go_su_co/alito_filibuster


6 posted on 01/06/2006 12:08:29 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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Reporter: [Is] the fetus . . . dead beforehand...?

Haskell: No, it's really not. . . in my case, I would think probably about a third of those are definitely. . . dead before I actually start to remove the fetus. And probably the other two-thirds are not.
Reporter: Is the skull procedure also done to make sure that the fetus is dead so you're not going to have the problem of a live birth?

Haskell: It's immaterial. If you can't get it out, you can't get it out. . . The point here is to effect a safe legal abortion. I mean, you could say the same thing about the D&E [dilation and evacuation] procedure. You know, why do you do the D&E procedure? Why do you crush the fetus up inside the womb? To kill it before you take it out? Well, that happens, yes. But that's not why you do it. You do it to get it out. I could do the same thing with a D&E procedure...But that's not really the point. The point here is you're attempting to do an abortion. And that's the goal of your work, is to complete an abortion. . .

Reporter: I wanted to make sure I have both you and (Dr.) McMahon saying 'No' then. That this is misinformation, these letters to the editor saying it's only done when the baby's already dead, in case of fetal demise and you have to do an autopsy. But some of them are saying they're getting that information from NAF [National Abortion Federation]. Have you talked to Barbara Radford or anyone over there?

Haskell: Well, I had heard that they were giving that information, somebody over there might be giving information like that out. The people that staff the NAF office are not medical people. And many of them when I gave my paper, many of them came in, I learned later, to watch my paper because many of them have never seen an abortion performed of any kind.

Reporter: Did you also show a video when you did that?

Haskell: Yeah. I taped a procedure a couple of years ago, a very brief video, that simply showed the technique. The old story about a picture's worth a thousand words.

Reporter: As National Right to Life will tell you.

Haskell: Afterwards they were just amazed. They just had no idea. And here they're rabid supporters of abortion. They work in the office there. And...some of them have never seen one performed...And I'll be quite frank: most of my abortions are elective in that 20-24 week range...In my particular case, probably 20% are for genetic reasons. And the other 80% are purely elective..."

- Dr. Martin Haskell, explaining how his late-term abortion method is used to effect safe abortions, to American Medical News (U.S. Congressional Record, 1996, p. H2919)


7 posted on 01/06/2006 12:12:04 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: doug from upland

Judge Alito is as good as sitting on the Supreme Court bench!!! End of story!!! The Democrat "Traitor/Treason" Party is not going to have a good year in 2006!!!


8 posted on 01/06/2006 12:57:58 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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"But late-term abortions are only used under the most compelling of circumstances--to protect a woman's health or life or because of grave fetal abnormality." - Kate Michelman, NARAL President
9 posted on 01/06/2006 1:11:52 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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Re: Late term Abortions

Reporter: What led you to develop D & X [dilation and extraction or "partial-birth abortion"]?

Haskell: D & E's [dilation and evacuation], the procedure typically used for later abortions, have always been somewhat problematic because of the toughness and development of the fetal tissues. . . I just kept doing D & Es because that was what I was comfortable with, up until 24 weeks. But they were very tough. Sometimes it was a 45-minute operation.

I noticed that some of the later D & Es were very, very easy. . . You see the easy ones would have a foot length presentation, you'd reach up and grab the foot of the fetus, pull the fetus down and the head would hang up and then you would collapse the head and take it out. It was easy. . . Then I said, `Well gee, if I just put the ultrasound up there I could see it all and I wouldn't have to feel around for it.' I did that and sure enough, I found it 99 percent of the time.

Kind of serendipity.

"Dr. Martin Haskell, discussing the invention of his late-term abortion method, Cincinnati Medicine, Fall 1993 (U.S. Congressional Record, 1996, p. H10614)


"Famous women would rather admit to having been sexually abused as children than to having had a termination. . . Myself, I'd as soon weep over my taken tonsils or my absent appendix as snivel over ["My abortions! All five of them."] I had a choice, and I chose life - mine."
Julie Burchill, British feminist and abortion advocate, from "Abortion: still a dirty word" in The Guardian, 5/25/2005 [14]


"If the abortion is well done, we don't have to watch the baby die. So we inject a salt solution. The result is like putting salt on a slug, but we don't have to watch it."
Dr. Russell Sacco, abortionist, "Infants Aborted Alive: Officials Wink at Laws" The Oregon Journal, 3/14/1982


Q: Are you currently a member of the Board of Directors for Physicians for Choice, Physicians for Reproductive Health and Choice?
Carhart: Exactly. I am
Q: And are you also on the National Board of Directors of the Religious Coalition of Reproductive Choice?
Carhart: Yes, ma'am. I am
Q: Doctor, are you board certified?
Carhart: No, ma'am. I'm not.
Dr. Leroy Carhart, confirming his pro-choice credentials under oath, Carhart v. Ashcroft, 4/1/2004

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abortion

ALSO:

"In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - Hurricane Katrina victims can call the NAF [National Abortion Federation] toll-free hotline to speak with professional hotline operators. . .

Many NAF member clinics throughout the country are offering free [abortions] or significantly reduced fees for [abortions] for women from the disaster regions. . . Donations to our Hotline Assistance Fund will allow us to provide the financial assistance desperately needed by women affected by Hurricane Katrina."
National Abortion Federation, appearing on the homepage of the internet website of NAF on 10/2/2005


"FREE ABORTIONS for Hurricane Katrina Survivors - At LRFPS [Little Rock Family Planning Services] we are offering abortions at no charge to victims of Hurricane Katrina.

In order to receive this service you MUST have a government issued picture ID showing your home address in the following counties/parishes: Jackson, Harrison, and Hancock - Mississippi. Orleans, Kenner, Plaquemines, St. Tammany, St. Bernard, Jefferson, Charles, Terrabone, and St. James - Louisiana."
Little Rock Family Planning Services, appearing on the homepage of the internet website of LRFPS on 10/2/2005


10 posted on 01/06/2006 2:36:33 AM PST by Anita1 (You can't argue against the truth!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Key Democrat Witness in Alito Hearings Has Truth Problem.

Correction:

Many Democrats have a truth problem.

11 posted on 01/06/2006 2:50:07 AM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Notwithstanding

Alito will sail through.


12 posted on 01/06/2006 3:05:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Notwithstanding
I guess you are referring to Tiller the Killer.

God sometimes gives people interesting names...

13 posted on 01/06/2006 3:46:44 AM PST by topher
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If the Alito battle becomes another battle over abortion, I think the Republicans can wind down spending for 2006 US Senate Candidates, and start replays of the 2004 Election...

For about 1/2 of the country, abortion is wrong. For the other 1/2 of the country, money matters normally come before abortion (with the exception of about 10% of the people).

This should be good!

14 posted on 01/06/2006 3:49:11 AM PST by topher
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She has a track record of saying whatever will support her extremist views on abortion, without regard to facts.

But in this case, she will testify that Alito will vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Don't you hope that's true?

And if he will, why is that something to hide?

Do you think that something that four of the last five elected Presidents, and the platform of the majority in the Senate for sixteen of the last twenty-five years, have promised to do is something to be ashamed of?

15 posted on 01/06/2006 3:54:43 AM PST by Jim Noble (Fiat justitia, ruat coelum)
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The stupid party will of course attack the witness as a liar, instead of saying, "Damn right he will overturn Roe v. Wade, that's why the President nominated him, and that's why we are voting to confirm him".
16 posted on 01/06/2006 3:56:28 AM PST by Jim Noble (Fiat justitia, ruat coelum)
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To: Notwithstanding

Reading this makes me literally sick.....


17 posted on 01/06/2006 4:08:13 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: Jim Noble

You seem to have a legitimate point to make (there is no reason to hide the desire to overturn Roe).

But it is also a legitimate point that Michaelman always spreads untruths in order to prop up her extremist position on abortion.

She SHOULD be criticized for making false statements when she does so.

She will testify that:

-- most American's support Roe (FALSE)
-- that her's is the mainstream view (FALSE)
-- overturning Roe will kill women (FALSE)
-- babies in utero don't feel pain (FALSE)
-- PBA is only used when a woman will die without one (FALSE)
-- etc. etc. etc.

This does not mean that the desire to overturn Roe should be hidden. You seem to have made a logical error - but I agree with the underlying point you have made.


18 posted on 01/06/2006 4:15:39 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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Another likely falsehood we can expect to hear from Ms. Michaelperson:

-- its between a woman and her doctor (FALSE: most women have zero actual consultation with the doctor - they are actually discouraged form talking about the abortion at all - and the doctor's have a bias to favor abortion as they lose out on big profits if they counsel against it)


19 posted on 01/06/2006 4:19:40 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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I can't wait to hear Tom Coburn question her. It may be worth getting out the popcorn for.
20 posted on 01/06/2006 8:44:52 AM PST by Clump
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