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1 posted on 01/05/2006 9:48:17 PM PST by MRMEAN
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a stock-research analyst and three sales staffers

You'd think these guys know better than to even think about doing stuff like this in this day & age.

2 posted on 01/05/2006 9:49:59 PM PST by Lester Moore (The headwaters of the islamic river of death and hate are in Saudi Arabia.)
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Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuch...in the world of sales, a LOT of Purchase Orders are signed after a trip to the strip club.


3 posted on 01/05/2006 9:50:37 PM PST by xrp (My current list of worshippers: MNJohnnie)
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Should have taken the clients to see "Brokeback Mountain". The employees would have gotten promotions. Sheesh.


4 posted on 01/05/2006 9:52:04 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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exclusionary, male-only activities won't be tolerated at the firm

If I read the story correctly, there were some naked chicks involved, too.

So, no problem.

5 posted on 01/05/2006 9:52:07 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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OK, so let's see some women staffers get fired for a trip to Chippendale's. (...or gay staffers, it doesn't matter in principle.)

Brings to mind the Claire Swire debacle of yesteryear.

Cheers!

6 posted on 01/05/2006 9:52:18 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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The firing of the staffers, all men, sent a message that exclusionary, male-only activities won't be tolerated at the firm, according to people familiar with the matter.

They weren't fired for inappropriate, immoral behavior but because they were exclusionary?!?! Oh! Wait! Of course! For liberals being exclusionary IS inappropriate and immoral.

9 posted on 01/05/2006 9:58:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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"....the four fired employees were all technology-industry specialists who made the strip-club visit during free time while they were attending a three-day Morgan Stanley conference"

PC running amok..


11 posted on 01/05/2006 9:58:57 PM PST by RTINSC (Being Offended is the Natural Consequence of Leaving Your Home...)
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ping


12 posted on 01/05/2006 9:59:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Good grief! Next time invite the femi nazis along.


13 posted on 01/05/2006 9:59:59 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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It is an outrage.

What a stupid idea.


15 posted on 01/05/2006 10:02:05 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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...proceeded to save almost 3,000 Morgan Stanley Employees...

...by getting them out of the World Trade Center's Tower II...

...before it came crashing down on...


.......him:



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17 posted on 01/05/2006 10:16:21 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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One of the complaints in the gender-discrimination case brought by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission was that women in the same institutional-stock division had been improperly excluded from certain client-related activities such as male-only golf outings and strip-club visits.

First thing that comes to mind is: learn to golf, sweeties.

Secondly, I've been very successful in sales for 20 years...mostly in male-dominated fields. My clients have always known I won't take them to strip clubs (of course); I spend my time trying to help them make more money, instead.

Who do you think wins in the long run? Perhaps if the ladies would spend more time selling and less time whining, they would be more successful.

18 posted on 01/05/2006 10:16:35 PM PST by garandgal
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Just a guess...the Robert "Lap Dunce" McCormick thing might have had something to do with these guys getting fired. Even if the sexual-harassment thing weren't a potential problem, Morgan Stanley almost certainly has no desire to be the next firm to get clowned by the Daily News and the Post because some of their guys got drunk and frisky and ran up a five or six-digit tab in the champagne room.


26 posted on 01/05/2006 10:34:10 PM PST by RichInOC ("There is no sex in the champagne room. Oh, there's champagne, but you don't want champagne...")
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"One of the complaints in the gender-discrimination case...was that women...had been...excluded from certain client-related activities such as...strip-club visits."

Okay. Big deal. Take 'em along. Let 'em get a lapdance or two--as long as they pay for it themselves.

27 posted on 01/05/2006 10:34:30 PM PST by Savage Beast (Why George W. Bush is a Great President in five words or less: 9/11 was never repeated.)
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In the recent episode, the four fired employees were all technology-industry specialists who made the strip-club visit during free time while they were attending a three-day Morgan Stanley conference for tech investors in early November at the Arizona Biltmore Resort & Spa in Phoenix.

Morgan Stanley might have another wrongful termination suit on their hands. Many people in the IT field are friends with others in the field. This visit to the strip club was on their own time.

If the guys entertained clients there then I can see how they would be violating the new rules, but if they were just hanging out with a bunch of people then I don't see how that could be against the rules.

28 posted on 01/05/2006 10:34:51 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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The women were most likely excluded because the guys were jealous of their hair and makeup.


36 posted on 01/05/2006 10:47:51 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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I did my best sales in a strip club.

Funny thing is, I am not a salesman. :-)

48 posted on 01/05/2006 11:20:25 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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But... maybe just... could it be that... Oh I just don't understand!!!


72 posted on 01/06/2006 1:10:03 AM PST by MedicalMess
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What about these all-female gyms that I see all over the place? Why are these exclusionary establishments allowed to flourish? What if a couple of ladies from Morgan Stanley went there together.


82 posted on 01/06/2006 1:58:11 AM PST by Bon mots
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The firing of the staffers, all men, sent a message that exclusionary, male-only activities won't be tolerated at the firm, <<<<

Well there go the urinals.


98 posted on 01/06/2006 3:38:12 AM PST by tlb
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