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Poverty now comes with a color TV
Christian Science Monitor/msn.com ^ | Jan. 5, 2006 | staff

Posted on 01/05/2006 10:17:47 AM PST by wouldntbprudent

Still, by almost all measures, the data show rising well-being for all of society. And while the wealth gap may not be narrowing, the rich-poor gap in lifestyles has narrowed substantially since 1992 when measured in many of these tangible items.

"In terms of the items people have ... it amazes me the number of people who are at or near the poverty line that have color TVs, cable, washer, dryer, microwave," says Michael Cosgrove, an economist at the University of Dallas in Irving, Texas. That's not to ignore the hardships of poverty, he adds, "but the conveniences they have are in fact pretty good."

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To: wouldntbprudent
Alright, here I go. I know I'm going to get flamed like crazy, but...

If I were dirt poor, I'd probably try to get a high speed internet connection so my kids could better themselves. Also, if I lived in a bad neighborhood, I wouldn't be able to hang clothes out on the line because they'd get stolen, so a washer and dryer isn't such a luxury when you consider what it costs to use a laundramat. And I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want my kids running around playing ball on the streets if I lived in a housing project, so all in all cable doesn't seem that crazy to me either. I'd try really hard to afford cable too because there is absolutely nothing on regular TV worth watching.

Expensive sneakers, of course, are ridiculous. But most of these other expenses seem reasonable to me. Maybe I'm a bleeding heart, but just to be clear, I'm no liberal.

21 posted on 01/05/2006 10:30:12 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: MEGoody
Living in poverty in this country is like being a rich person in many countries.

100% true. The avg. "poor" family in America has a living space larger than, and with more amenities than the avg. "middle class" family in Europe.

22 posted on 01/05/2006 10:31:24 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: seoul62
I have one better: they have bugaboo strollers, those strollers are over $800.00, where pray tell do they earn that money from???????

Every October, we do a collection of baby stuff at our parish. We regularly get expensive, practically new items. We donate them to poor mothers.

I'm not naive. I know some of these women get the money from the drug dealing daddy of their children. But not all of them.

23 posted on 01/05/2006 10:32:21 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

I could furnish a house with what people throw away, including coror TVs.


24 posted on 01/05/2006 10:37:33 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: old and tired
If there's nothing worth watching on TV and you want to better your kids, why not fill the place with used books? Show up on the last day of a library sale, and they're practically giving them away. A lot of stuff worth reading goes to the dump.
25 posted on 01/05/2006 10:37:46 AM PST by Physicist
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To: wouldntbprudent

Ouch, must've been Japanese coror TVs.


26 posted on 01/05/2006 10:38:37 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

It's easy to afford a color tv when you're poor. You can collect it off the curb when your neighbor gets evicted for non-payment of rent.


27 posted on 01/05/2006 10:39:47 AM PST by Motodd
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To: ModelBreaker

And this tells us what about the "pressing," "urgent," "critical" need to raise the minimum wage?


28 posted on 01/05/2006 10:41:33 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Rebelbase

Oh, that is a one fantastic pic!!


29 posted on 01/05/2006 10:42:15 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

"Americans are the only people that drive to the poor house in automobiles." -- Will Rogers


30 posted on 01/05/2006 10:43:06 AM PST by pabianice
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To: wouldntbprudent

Welfare now covers satellite dishes and air conditioners.


31 posted on 01/05/2006 10:43:45 AM PST by Rebelbase (Whew! Another year until the cursed green bean casserole strikes again!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

No sense in being poor, if it is dull, boring and you don't have anything to keep your mind from wandering.


32 posted on 01/05/2006 10:45:16 AM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: MEGoody
Living in poverty in this country is like being a rich person in many countries.

There was a study a while back that found living in poverty here is the same as living in Denmark's middle class.

33 posted on 01/05/2006 10:45:20 AM PST by lizma
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To: old and tired

I don't think you're a bleeding heart. I think your reasoning is spot on, though I doubt many proceed with your rationale way of doing things.

I don't think the issue is so much that people have this stuff, it's that the Rats keep running around trying to use class envy, "two Americas," the "homeless," the "starving," the "backs of poor people," blah blah blah as the foundation for their party's--ahem---philosophy that we need more and better programs to help the "poor" and that the "poor" are suffering because of tax cuts for "the rich" and BLAH BLAH BLAH.


34 posted on 01/05/2006 10:45:45 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Rebelbase

All Section 8 (welfare) housing recipients in MA get both free apartments and utilities, including cable TV, among other benefits.


35 posted on 01/05/2006 10:46:29 AM PST by pabianice
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To: wouldntbprudent

Considering that a 25" color television now costs less than a week of groceries, what does this prove at all? All it proves is that televisions are now just a step away from blisterpacks on endcaps.


36 posted on 01/05/2006 10:46:32 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: seoul62
they have bugaboo strollers, those strollers are over $800.00,

I've been away from the States for too long apparently. What, pray tell, is a bugaboo stroller?

37 posted on 01/05/2006 10:49:20 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: old and tired
I think the problem is that we are talking two groups of people, those who are trying to help their kids improve and those who are no longer trying. Again, the difference between those who would be thank-full for a hand up and those who just want a hand out.
38 posted on 01/05/2006 10:51:22 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: Rebelbase
I don't have cable TV nor a cell phone. I don't get my nails done (I need to type AT WORK) nor do I wear a nice leather coat, smoke or eat junk food. I do pay my bills on time- which includes my tax bill, I support my church and a food shelf.

w/o cable, I still get a good quantity of quality TV: The Nanny and Red Green. although the news sux.
39 posted on 01/05/2006 10:54:50 AM PST by BarbM
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To: Melas

I think it proves that the Rat mantras about the poor are widely off the mark.

It proves that the "fact" that America's poor are living hand to mouth, eating dog food and choosing between life-saving prescription drugs and macaroni 'n cheese is a big load of hogwash.

It proves that tax cuts "for the rich" have, in fact, lifted all boats.

It proves that more and more money thrown at "poverty" programs actually goes for "more stuff" programs.

It proves that we have created an economy in which even those in the lowest socioeconomic strata have a level of prosperity unheard of in much of the world.

It proves that the stoopid Rats should quitcher-itching about the minimum wage, entitlement cuts, balancing the budget "on the backs of the poor" and so on.

I could continue. :-)


40 posted on 01/05/2006 10:57:12 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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