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BREAKING: FLORIDA SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN SCHOOL VOUCHERS
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Posted on 01/05/2006 8:32:55 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: jwalsh07; Kuksool; fieldmarshaldj; deport; crasher
Hey John, I bet it never occurred to you that I am just another chimp pounding the keyboard when it comes to political predictions did it? LOL. Humility is a Christian virtue that cannot be totally dismissed by the secular humanist crowd I guess. That sucks.

January 05, 2006 Evaluating Political Pundits The Wall Street Journal reviews Expert Political Judgment by Philip Tetlock and finds "the prognostications of political pundits are about as accurate as a chimp throwing darts."

"From 1987 to 2003, Prof. Tetlock coaxed 284 political experts of all stripes -- academics, journalists and think-tankers from across the political spectrum -- to make specific, verifiable forecasts. He looked at more than 27,000 predictions in all... What he found is that people with expertise in explaining events that have happened aren't very successful at predicting what will happen."

341 posted on 01/05/2006 8:01:57 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Would you like me to contact the Professor on your behalf?

I will do it in a heartbeat and I will tell him that I've been observing your prognostications for years and that you're pretty damn good. Say the word, I'll open his eyes.

342 posted on 01/05/2006 8:07:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Have you been saving them? I don't remember them all myself. I do remember my house predictions I must admit, and they ARE pretty good I must admit (although the Schmidt race was a shocker, and I gave her a considerably larger margin). Currently, the Pubbies are headed to lose about 10-12 seats in the House. But it is early yet. :)


343 posted on 01/05/2006 8:17:15 PM PST by Torie
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To: AntiGuv

FYI :)


344 posted on 01/05/2006 8:17:37 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

Nuttin' but us chimps around here. :-D

345 posted on 01/05/2006 8:19:34 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

At least I am the one in the middle.


346 posted on 01/05/2006 8:20:46 PM PST by Torie
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To: SoFloFreeper
The "education" monopoly is a racket....

And not only unconstitutional, but taxation without representation.

347 posted on 01/05/2006 8:29:41 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: michigander

Their logic is stupid.

BY DEFINITION, once the funding goes to support a voucher to an alternative school, it makes that PART OF THE SYSTEM for educating the children.

It all depends on whether you focus on the word "system" or "public". My reading of english indicates that the system is the important word here, not public. By definition - once anything is included in this system it becomes part of the the "system of public education".

In other words, a "system for educating the public" - not "a system of public schools" which this absolutely does not say - yet they claim.

To make them look stupid - are buses part of the education system? Yes? But are buses public schools? No. They are part of the "system".

The rest is just liberal claptrap, which is why they don't even bother to state what part of the Constitution has anything to do with diversion of money.


348 posted on 01/05/2006 8:32:47 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Embrace peace- Hug an American soldier- the real peace keepers.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; jwalsh07

It's unequal to allow some children to get a better education whose parents don't have the personal funds to do it, even if it saves the state money via a voucher with an amount less than the state cost, because that would be unfair, and unconsitutional under the Florida constitution. Surely you understand that. Enforced mediocrity at additional state expense for those who can't play to pay is what the constitution is all about. But then I don't like state constitutions. One rogue court is enough. 51 of them is simply too much. All things in moderation.


349 posted on 01/05/2006 8:37:26 PM PST by Torie
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To: RonF

You, and they, are wrong.

The Constitution requires a "System of public education" - not "A system of public schools". Once the vouchers are defined as part of the "system of education" - they are by definition part of the "system of public education".

The intention of the wording in the Constitution is that the state is responsible for a system to educate the public. Not that the state is responsible for a system of public schools.

The word "public" refers to the people, not the school.


350 posted on 01/05/2006 8:38:57 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Embrace peace- Hug an American soldier- the real peace keepers.)
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To: RonF

No where does it say that the schools can only be public. It says "through a system of public education". It does not say "through a system of public schools".

You are falling for their twisting the word public, originally meant to refer to "the public" into "public school" - which most certainly is not what the Constitution says.

The parents are free to send their kids anywhere. The state is responsible for an education system for the public. Not an education system of public schools.


351 posted on 01/05/2006 8:43:01 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Embrace peace- Hug an American soldier- the real peace keepers.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


352 posted on 01/05/2006 9:49:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Monthly is the best way to donate to Free Republic!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why would you be surprised at any ruling from a court that decided a conflict between the words, "may" and "shall" would be resolved by substituting the word, "can't?"


353 posted on 01/05/2006 10:00:48 PM PST by 1L
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To: 1L

The same Fl. supreme court that said NO to Terri Schiavo. Of course they would deny school vouchers.....COMMUNISTS don't want parental influence over their own children it seems. Throw a black robe over a beast and voile....too many arse wholes with influence stealing our freedoms. Fight these slimebags hard.


354 posted on 01/05/2006 10:12:15 PM PST by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: SoFloFreeper

My bet is that the sons and daughters of all these judges attend private school.


355 posted on 01/05/2006 10:43:46 PM PST by fhayek
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To: LWalk18

It should have thrown the amendment out, they do it all the time anyway. Its unconstitutional for government to create monopolies. IMO


356 posted on 01/06/2006 12:47:25 AM PST by GeronL (http://flogerloon.blogspot.com)
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To: cvq3842
De-funding public education altogether?

That would be the ideal solution, but unfortunately there is not (yet) enough political will to do it.

357 posted on 01/06/2006 2:51:14 AM PST by Smile-n-Win (Don't let her take things away from you on behalf of the public good!)
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To: fhayek

If they do, the justices obviously don't expect the taxpayers to pay for those kids' private education. The parents provide it.


358 posted on 01/06/2006 5:08:35 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: SoFloFreeper

This would have to be the same Flori-duh Supremes that tried and tried to change the results of the national presidential election in '00, by just wanting recounts in counties of their choosing.

What a bunch of slimy d*uchebags.


359 posted on 01/06/2006 5:39:18 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The political vampires have struck again. Where is Van Helsing when we need him?


360 posted on 01/06/2006 5:48:07 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Thinking for yourself is not illegal or a sin even.)
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