[FreedomPoster]

>>But there is one thing for sure: They will not take over the power here.

That sounds nice. However, you need to take a cold hard look at birth rates and demographics. Increasingly, it isn't "you" who is raising the next generation of "Germans".

Steyn has commented on this. While he uses hyperbole and can be somewhat flip, there is a hard edge of reality behind it all.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1550710/posts

[Atlantic Bridge]

Thank you for the ping. Steyn is always brilliant. Anyway his conclusions are only half true if we talk about Germany. The reason for this is that he predicts that all immigration into my country is islamic. This is definitly wrong. In the meantime only a very limited number of Turks or other muslims are flowing into Germany. Most of them through marriages.

Since the beginning 80ties we have growing immigration rates from eastern Europe. Former Russians, Ukrainians and Poles (so called "Aussiedler" - maybe you heared about it) are mixing into our population. A interesting graphic about naturalization in Germany:

Do you see the big proportion that the "Aussiedlers" take. The growing naturalization rates of other foreigners are because of changed laws that made it easier for foreigners that lived for a long time in Germany to become German. In fact their influx into Germany is declining.

Although it is true that the Turks have a much bigger offspring than the average German, you should not forget that over the time the young Turks adopt the western style of living. It is very unlikely that they start a broad jihad against other Germans.

Furthermore political power is a question of education and know-how. All those immigrants seem to be trapped in the lower class of the society. Maybe they can start some riots, but they will never be able to topple our system (I.e. the riots in LA in 1992 did not topple your system either). BTW - most of them do not want to do this anyway since they would destroy their own livelihood in this case.

Espechially in the UK things are more dangerous due to the numberous moslems from Pakistan. There is a simular situation in France with their north Africans. These guys are gung ho to spread their religion with all means. But - until now those idiots weren't even able to do some effective terrorism in Europe. Maybe you know that it is extremely easy to cause really a lot of trouble in a civil society as long as you act intelligent. Until now there was only one really massive blow to western civilisation: 9/11. This is a good indicator to their collective incompetence. The background for their intellectual failure is also clear to me: Somebody who believes in their interpretation of the Koran and into their form of Islam must be a complete moron anyway.

Of course we have to be careful and we have to steer against dangerous developments. Believe it or not - the German "Verfassungsschutz" (a German intelligence service for interior matters) is quite effective in dealing with islamist scum. On the other hand there is no reason for panic. Things are under control and they will stay under control.