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V A N I T Y - Interesting facts about Iraq and past wars
Received via email | Todays Email | Uncertain, attributed to John Glenn

Posted on 01/04/2006 1:45:19 PM PST by Trident/Delta

I don't know if this has been posted already, or, if Glenn is the correct source. This was sent to me via email:

JOHN GLENN SAID

Things that make you think a little:

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq .

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:

a. FDR led us into World War II.

b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.

c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea.
North Korea never attacked us.
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.

d John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.

e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost .. an average of 5,800 per year.

f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us.
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya , Iran , and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

But,

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida !!!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB!

The Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts

But Wait .

There's more!

JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR) Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13

Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.

This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.

Sen ator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
"How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"

Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
"I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank."

"I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men ... with their mangled bodies . in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery , where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

What about you?"

For those who don't remember .. During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.

Now he's a Senator!

If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.


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Semper Fi
1 posted on 01/04/2006 1:45:22 PM PST by Trident/Delta
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To: Trident/Delta

Thanks for posting this, Trident. I think the left really wishes we all had amnesia.


2 posted on 01/04/2006 1:47:37 PM PST by Peach
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To: Trident/Delta

bump for later


3 posted on 01/04/2006 1:47:53 PM PST by mnehring (“Anybody who doesn’t appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell”...)
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To: Trident/Delta

Good stuff regardless of where it came from!!!!


4 posted on 01/04/2006 1:49:35 PM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Trident/Delta

Semper Fi. John served with honor.


5 posted on 01/04/2006 1:51:27 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Trident/Delta

Doesn't sound like Glenn, but it generally appears true. Not sure about the nuclear inspectors in Iran and NK.


6 posted on 01/04/2006 1:52:21 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Trident/Delta
By the way, the date on the John Glenn quote is wrong, it was actually 1974:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/glenn.asp
7 posted on 01/04/2006 1:52:44 PM PST by mnehring (“Anybody who doesn’t appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell”...)
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To: Trident/Delta

The comments about not having a job were according to Snopes, said in 1974

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/glenn.asp


9 posted on 01/04/2006 1:53:47 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Trident/Delta
Was Glenn working an honest job when he tood Charlie Keating's money?

I'd bet he would never defend Bush. If he were in the Senate today, he'd be voting to uphold a filibuster against the Patriot Act, and then going home to brag about it.

10 posted on 01/04/2006 1:56:18 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; All
I will re-state, I have no proof of the veracity of the email, I just reposted it.

OBTW snopes is wrong more than they are right.

Semper Corrected

11 posted on 01/04/2006 2:06:51 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta

Ha! The same John Glenn who was campaigning for John Kerry?


12 posted on 01/04/2006 2:07:47 PM PST by Phocion ("Protection" really means exploiting the consumer. - Milton Friedman)
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To: Phocion
see #11

Semper Sheesh

13 posted on 01/04/2006 2:08:56 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta

I find it hard to believe that a liberal like Glenn would have made such remarks, or that he would clash with his fellow Ohio Democrat Metzenbaum, or why this subject would come up on the Senate floor in the first place. The whole story sounds fishy, like some of those self-reliance quotes falsely attributed to Bill Gates.


14 posted on 01/04/2006 2:09:13 PM PST by speedy
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To: Trident/Delta
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.

That may be accurate for the number of American deaths. I can guarantee that a whole lot more Iraqis died than that.

15 posted on 01/04/2006 2:09:40 PM PST by Restorer
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To: Trident/Delta
Great Post & Semper Fi

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick

Just dayumn! That one's gonna sting.

16 posted on 01/04/2006 2:11:58 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Conservative, a liberal that was mugged. Liberal, a conservative that was arrested.)
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To: Trident/Delta

Great post.


17 posted on 01/04/2006 2:13:55 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: speedy
See #10, snopes says it happened, and #11, I don't know

Semper Responsive

18 posted on 01/04/2006 2:20:31 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta

Thanks, Trident. At the very least, it is nice to think that somebody did talk like that to Metzenbaum.


19 posted on 01/04/2006 2:22:53 PM PST by speedy
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To: speedy
At your service sir (or 'mam) With a handle like speedy you can never tell...

Semper Snicker

20 posted on 01/04/2006 2:25:26 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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