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List of Democrats who have taken Abramoff money
1/4/06

Posted on 01/04/2006 9:56:07 AM PST by MNJohnnie

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To: MNJohnnie

bump, thanks for posting that.


161 posted on 01/04/2006 1:23:00 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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To: MNJohnnie
* Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Received At Least – $12,950 * Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Received At Least – $29,550 Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) $1,000

My senators seemed to have brought in some big $$$ from this....appears Maurice Hinchey wasn't given a cut.

162 posted on 01/04/2006 1:24:17 PM PST by tioga (Happy New Year!)
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To: MNJohnnie

What's even better about that site is you can see the lobbying reports. Interesting that Dingy Harry's Legislative Counsel, Edward Ayoob (?spelling) is listed as a lobbyist many times. He was a lobbyist with Greenburg Trairig which was Abrahamhoff's baby. But Harry didn't know...

Reminds me of the song "Scotty doesn't know" from Eurotrip...


163 posted on 01/04/2006 1:44:17 PM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (Join the chickenhawk express at www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: M. Thatcher
SUPERcool.

(curtseying)

164 posted on 01/04/2006 2:06:59 PM PST by txhurl (hook'em)
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To: M. Thatcher
You were correct in asking for a link.

That is as important as footnoting a source.

165 posted on 01/04/2006 2:28:42 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Grand Total $1,541,673" democrats.

From a website cited in a later post, the grand, grand total was $4.5 million.

I'm just trying to get a handle on the relative size of this, and how "bipartisan it is.

Apparently, about two to one, more Republican dollars.

Links to various sites with contribution details and totals?




166 posted on 01/04/2006 3:20:48 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: MNJohnnie

"Here is the ENTIRE list. I was just intrested in why the Democrat Part contibutions are being spiked by the Dinasour Media?
http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips.asp"

This is DIFFERENT, than the totals you posted in #1.

What gives? How do you go from the dollar values for dems on the webpage you refer to, and the totals you posted in #1?


167 posted on 01/04/2006 3:32:22 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

... for what it worth, here as a side-by-side comparision of Pubs vs Dems ... note the two columns at the right comparing totals, as well as largest individual contribution, second largest etc ...

http://www.mindspring.com/~hk3/abramoff.xls

HK


168 posted on 01/04/2006 3:34:06 PM PST by HK Ball
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To: freeperfromnj

"$68,000 to Harry Reid"

$98,550 to John Kerry (Is the Catsup well running dry?)

Wonder is there are any records on George Soros?


169 posted on 01/04/2006 4:47:14 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: MNJohnnie

Bump for later


170 posted on 01/04/2006 6:52:41 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Pelosi is nowhere in this? Darn! Not all congresspersons can be evil and corrupt; only 99 percent of them can...

Yes, she is on the list.

171 posted on 01/04/2006 8:00:02 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: HK Ball; truth_seeker
... for what it worth, here as a side-by-side comparision of Pubs vs Dems

Irrelevant attempt at to diver attention off topic. Doesn't matter who "Got more" that is just an attempt to rationalize making excuses for the Democrats on the list. The Republicans are NOT the ones making the "Culture of Corruption" accusations. The Democrats are the accusers and are making the accusations KNOWING full well they are equally guilty. That makes the Democrats action in this matter far far far worse.

Nice try to make excuses for the Democrats but it will not work. Doesn't do any good to argue Democrats are "less guilty" because some Republicans got more money. That whole defense has all ready been render hypocritical and false when the Democrat Party has gone out and claimed "they don't know jack" in an Ad Campaign. Some of the people on the list (Like Nancy Pelosie and Harry Reid) are the shrillest voices in the Democrat Party screaming about the "GOP Scandal".

The real scandal here is how the self proclaimed "People Watch Dogs", the establishment Journalists, are busy acting as the willing Propaganda Mouthpieces for the Democrat Party PR game.

What does it say that Democrat Party leaders, who are ON THE LIST, are busy claiming guilt by association and accusation for the Republicans on the List? What does it say about the Democrats who are MAKING the accusation when they are equally tied to the supposed source of corruption, Abrahamoff? If you are REALLY interested in "truth seeking" you would not be so desperate to make up phony excuses for the Democrats on this.

172 posted on 01/04/2006 8:08:16 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

Looks like just about everybody in Congress was on the take.


173 posted on 01/04/2006 10:04:29 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Magnum44; MNJohnnie; ntnychik; devolve; PhilDragoo

Here is a source too;

Jack Abramoff Lobbying and Political Contributions, 1999 - 2006*

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips.asp


174 posted on 01/04/2006 10:08:51 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: 3catsanadog

Ah but not everyone in Congress is making the accusation that money from Abramoff is "proof" of corruption. So what does it tell us when the Democrats screaming that money from Abramoff is PROOF of corruption are tied to Abramoff themselves??????


175 posted on 01/04/2006 10:09:39 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: potlatch

Thanks for the link. Love your tag line. So the trick is to break the computer....guess I will live with a dirty house then :-)


176 posted on 01/04/2006 10:11:05 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

LOL, I get a lot of comments on my tagline, maybe I should change it because I do the cleanup before I get on. [My husband just likes to 'undo' any cleanup I do!]


177 posted on 01/04/2006 10:15:28 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: MNJohnnie

bump, to keep it in the LIGHT


178 posted on 01/04/2006 10:30:04 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ("Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: MNJohnnie

We are on the same side. But you are the one who posted the figures for democrats.

Then when asked for a source, the source you cited did NOT have the same figures.

My point: If we show figures for democrats, they must be correct. For credibility sake.

That is how the public accusation game is played.

Every person on the list who runs will face accusations by his opponent. The list shows more Republicans, so they face the greater risk of losing the next election, on because of this issue.


179 posted on 01/04/2006 10:55:57 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
Nonsense. Only risk is from people claiming to ;"Conservatives" who refuse to defend the truth.

Virtually EVERY Democrat in the US Congress has DIRECTLY received money from Abramoff. The Democrat Congressional Election groups recived more then half a Million. Thus ANY Democrat challenger will be using Abraoff's money in their war chest.

So, the Democrats are claiming that money from Abramoff is "proof" of corruption yet it turns out THEY PERSONALLY are tied to the SAME "corruption".

To try to manufacture claims the Republicans are "more guilty" is NONSENSE. Republicans are NOT making the accusation that money from Abramoff is corrupting. Democrats are making that claim. SO after making the claim that they "Don't know Jack" it turns out well YES, they ALL DID KNOW JACK. Sorry there Democrats are not only guilty of self proclaimed corruption but of also being liars and hypocrites. If they lied to us about THIS, what ELSE are Democrats lying to the voters about???????

180 posted on 01/05/2006 12:53:09 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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