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1 posted on 01/04/2006 9:00:31 AM PST by pickrell
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To: pickrell

Mutual Assured Destruction doesn't work when 1 side is a bunch of suicidal fanatical religious zealots.

The Soviets were still human enough to have the desire to stay alive.


2 posted on 01/04/2006 9:04:50 AM PST by manglor
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To: pickrell

Chilling. I wish I could say he's overstating the situation. But I'm not so sure now.


3 posted on 01/04/2006 9:06:29 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: pickrell
Fortunately no people were hurt- only soldiers

Where does this quote come from?

4 posted on 01/04/2006 9:08:53 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: pickrell
Israel .....lack of survivability of its retaliatory systems.

Not true. Israel has nukes on cruise missiles on (Dolphin class) submarines, nukes on ballistic missiles in hardened silos, and nukes on bombers. No way could a country like Iran eliminate the threats from this "nuclear triangle." In fact, it's extremely doubtful they'd be able to take out even one leg.

5 posted on 01/04/2006 9:10:07 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: pickrell

bookmark


7 posted on 01/04/2006 9:22:47 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: pickrell
Guess how much hesitation the Iranians have bought for themselves, in their collossal stupidity? Those persians who wish for a life for their grandchildren may have only days to throw down the theocracy in their country and avoid immolation. The real ballot will be the actions of those who don't relish the coming return of the 12th Imam, and the end of their world. They have the first veto. The Israelis have the second. And we have the third.

What a great and brief summary!

I reject the suggestion that Iranians are "helpless" against their clerics. Sow the wind reap the whirlwind...

9 posted on 01/04/2006 9:28:43 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: pickrell

The lesson of the holocaust: if someone says they are going to kill you, pay attention.


12 posted on 01/04/2006 9:43:03 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: pickrell

GREAT POST BUMP!


14 posted on 01/04/2006 9:54:01 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: pickrell
George Bush's gamble that "rather than kill all of them, we might be able to turn them towards democracy and co-existence", like we mastered in the cold war until the Soviets finally collapsed, might even have worked. It was the wisest, most compassionate, and least destructive gamble we have taken since the Marshall Plan rebuilt post-WW2 europe.

That, IMHO, is what Iraq is all about. It is our best hope in avoiding all out war in the Middle East.

Those that wish us to go into Iraq now, without understanding the consequences, should stop to think about the costs both economic and in human lives. The costs will be high. The question remains; will they be higher if we wait?

I have not given up hope that by freeing Iraq, we may have unleashed a chain of events that will free Iran. Unfortunately, such optimism is waning....time is running out.
15 posted on 01/04/2006 10:08:00 AM PST by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: pickrell
most likely will extinguish all remaining options.

I don’t see a connection between your posts opening paragraph and the reality of the situation. Antagonists don’t exist without latent conflict. The Iranian regime is an anathema to the modern world and the showdown between the modern and the medieval looms. Do the fathers in this scenario not see what the purge of sane Iranians from Iran has done? They’ve had more than a quarter century to open their eyes. The sane children of Iran have been warning these so called fathers of the days to come for years, yet the fathers have made no significant preparations besides building bigger fences. What difference does a fence make when your enemies are inside your walls? But like any parent, ignorant of the threats that face their children, they will either learn or suffer the most devastating of human experiences, the loss of a child.

There is but one constant and that constant is change. Even the will of the mightiest father is disarmed in the face of it.

16 posted on 01/04/2006 10:17:45 AM PST by humint
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To: pickrell; GreenEggsNHam

Bump and ping. Great read.


18 posted on 01/04/2006 10:26:28 AM PST by ericthecurdog (The chief export of Chuck Norris is pain.)
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To: pickrell

Glad the author feels better. But all this assumes that Israel can wipe out all Iranian assets first, that Iran has nothing to shoot back with, and they don't have any nukes yet -- a lot of assumptions when just one lucky shot with a surviving Iranian warhead can turn all of Israel into a desert. People who yak on about the Samson Option forget that Samson still ended up dead.


19 posted on 01/04/2006 10:39:26 AM PST by MajorityOfOne
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To: F14 Pilot

ping


21 posted on 01/04/2006 11:09:54 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: pickrell

Well written.


25 posted on 01/04/2006 12:23:14 PM PST by Bear_Slayer
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26 posted on 01/04/2006 1:55:35 PM PST by Cindy
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To: TR Jeffersonian; nnn0jeh

ping


30 posted on 01/04/2006 7:02:03 PM PST by kalee
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