Revote today [Dover, PA school board]

York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 January 2006 | TOM JOYCE

[PatrickHenry]

This is the final hurrah of the Dover evolution-intelligent design drama. In all the other school board slots that were up for election, the incumbents lost. This incumbent is getting a revote. Whatever happens in this particular race, the conclusion appears to be that ID is electoral death.

[PatrickHenry]

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[BenLurkin]

The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.

[highball]

the conclusion appears to be that ID is electoral death

The good guys win again. I love America!

[highball]

The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.

But wait, we're constantly being told that ID is not a religion. It certainly isn't an attempt to sneak Christianity past the Constutional prohibition.

So which is it?

[JamesP81]

The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.

They've been doing for 40 years. Nothing new, when you think about it. This is just the newest incarnation of the war against traditional values and parental rights.

[Junior]

The court made it perfectly clear: the school system has a duty to prevent children from adhering to their parents' beliefs.

Talk about spin! The decision reiterated that public schools are no place to promote any particular religious beliefs. If the parents don't like it, they always have the option of private school.

[BenLurkin]

Hillary should be well pleased with the continuing advance of her village and the defeat of the family.

[Dimensio]

This is just the newest incarnation of the war against traditional values and parental rights.

Keeping non-science out of science classroom is part of a war against traditional values and parental rights?

[BenLurkin]

Spin my eye!

[2banana]

she and her fellow members might officially vote to remove the mention of intelligent design from the school district's science curriculum.

Lord forbid that you even mention it. It's illegal to even talk about it. Sounds like schools under Communism...

[Dimensio]

It's illegal to even talk about it.

No, it isn't. Stop lying.

[mlc9852]

"public schools are no place to promote any particular religious beliefs"

I'm confused. Which particular religious beliefs were they trying to promote?

[betty boop]

Intelligent design is the idea that life is too complex for random evolution and must have a creator.

Of course you know, dear Patrick, that that's not what ID is at all. It says nothing about whether the source of the "intelligence" is a natural process or an agent.

I think what this brou-ha-ha is ultimately about is methodological naturalism is a scientific method based on only two of Aristotle's four causes: the material and the efficient. It is a "reductionist" method, in that it omits to consider the formal and final causes. ID is interested in all four causes.

Ultimately, this fight is not over a "creator." It's about what causes the scientific method ought to address, going forward. FWIW

[RonF]

Uh oh. Editing error.

Intelligent design is the idea that it can be scientifically proved that life is too complex for random evolution and must have a creator.

There. Fixed it.

[JamesP81]

No, it isn't. Stop lying.

Take it somewhere else, troll. No one's listening.

[highball]

Sounds like schools under Communism...

You mean the Communist schools who rejected scientific facts when it didn't conform to their dogma? The ones that were more interested in their political agenda than actual knowledge?

If that describes anyone in this case, it describes the school board members.

[Junior]

You shoulda checked the post to which I replied. He's the one who brought up "parents' beliefs."

[JCEccles]

The "science" of Darwinian materialism is in deep trouble, PH. It is hemorrhaging because it cannot answer simple questions posed by Intelligent Design. This silly little bandaid applied to the gaping wound by a small-minded angry little frump of a judge isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference over the long haul.

[Dimensio]

So how is keeping non-science out of science classroom is part of a war against traditional values and parental rights?